2009 Honda VFR1000 Interceptor details emerge as launch nears

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2009_Honda_VFR1000.jpgNumerous rumors surround the imminent launch of the 2009 Honda VFR1000, some more believable than others. What we do know is that it’s coming and that its launch is extremely important to Honda. Not only will it need to replace two models (the flawed VFR800 Interceptor and venerable CBR1100XX Super Blackbird) but it’ll be a flagship motorcycle for the company, a technological tour de force and a halo bike for the rest of its range. Here are the three rumors we think are most likely to reach production.
>2009_Honda_VFR1000_V5.jpgA V5 Engine:
Honda’s flagships of the ‘80s and ‘90s, the VFR750R RC30 and RVF750R
RC45, used extremely complicated V4 engines whose real-world
performance never quite matched their technological promise. They
competed in the preeminent production-based race series of the time,
World Superbike. Now, with MotoGP running four-strokes, GP technology
is trickling down to production bikes in ways never before possible.
Witness the Ducati Desmosedici RR. An RC211V-based 1000cc V5, an
extremely complicated engine whose real-world performance hasn’t quite
matched its technological promise, would give Honda Ducati-beating
bragging rights while firmly establishing the VFR as a technological
leader among production bikes. It could also give the VFR performance
to rival larger capacity bikes like the ZX-14 and Hayabusa.


A Frameless Chassis:

Well, not quite frameless, think BMW, but with larger aluminum spars
extending well back alongside the engine from the headstock and a
separate aluminum casting supporting the swingarm pivot. We’ll call it
a two-part chassis. This rumor is backed up by the Honda patent
application you can see above. This design would use the engine as a
stressed member and represent a radical weight-saving departure from
current Honda design principals and from rival machines.


Traction Control:

The Ducati 1098R, Kawasaki ZX-10R and 2008 CBR1000RR already use
various forms of traction control, but none features a version
optimized for on-road safety. We think the 2009 VFR1000 will, along
with the new Honda Combined ABS, making the VFR one of the safest bikes
ever made.

Whatever happens, expect the 2009 Honda VFR1000 to represent a
significant departure from the current model, pursuing new avenues to
deliver more accomplished all-round ability than ever before. Also
expect a significant stylistic departure from the staid current design
and a price commiserate with a range-topping sportsbike, but not the
exotic HRC specials of old. We can’t wait.

  • Jeffrey

    Is it possible for you to be MORE wrong in this article? Flawed VFR800? I am betting that you have never been in the saddle of one, and if you were, wouldn’t know how to get it into first gear.

    There is nothing but speculation and guesswork involved in your reporting, nothing involving fact. Maybe a journalism 101 class is in order…

    • Firefly

      Here here.

      Flawed? Perhaps only on the US sales floors. It does OK, but never sold like it should have. Just like many great TV shows that are amazingly well done -the VFR has always been a cult favorite to those with the taste and moto chops to recognize true brilliance. But like those great shows, it never quite achieves the wide-spread appeal of schlock “reality TV” crap like American Idol.

      The mainstream American motorcycle buyer is as uncultured and unrefined as your typical TV watcher. How else can we explain the Harley phenomenon?

      Because the VFR is SUCH a good bike, it has escaped cancellation because of its core group of knowledgeable fans. Honda knows it is a great bike, real riders respect that too. But it has never been a ratings success. If we judged TV shows by ratings then American Idol and Big Brother would be equal to high art… And crap like the alphabet soup fat-wide-glide-boy from Harley would be the “best” motorcycle ever built…

  • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes

    Thanks for commenting Jeffrey. If you’ll look closely you’ll see that it’s the rumors we’re reporting on, I think they’re interesting enough to merit it.

    I have ridden the current VFR, as well as several from previous generations, I even got some of them into second gear. Many of my bike journalist colleagues share the opinion that the current model is a bit of a missed opportunity. Not only is it up on weight and down on power from rivals, but it’s not as good of an all-round bike as the fourth and fifth generations were.

  • Ben

    While I certainly hope to see something interesting from Honda, I’ve stopped holding my breath. The new CBR1000RR is impressive, and is finally winning some races. The CBR600RR is also nice, finally winning in supersport (in the US, Ten Kate did more for them in WSS then HRC in my opinion) rather than the built to suit Formula Extreme, so I give them credit for that. But, everything else in their line is old in the tooth and needs a revamp. Honda appears to have been run by the accountants ever since Soichiro died and it’s a shame. The frameless chassis is similar to what they ran on the 929 and 954, so that’s not much news. Traction control, and a new sport ABS as tested on the 600RR recently, for the safety concious, while good and will undoubtably make the VFR crowd happy, isn’t all that new. If the V5 makes the power that it should, then it will be booed for not being in a short nimble RV211V replica chassis, and if it doesn’t make the power, then the VFR might again be a poor performer. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fine bike, but there are a lot of other fine bikes that I would prefer to ride.

  • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes

    Good point with the CBR954RR Ben. I’m also a huge fan of both current CBRs, but yeah, the rest of the range is a bit yawn inducing. I expect the new VFR to come in below the CBR1000RR in terms of performance, but above it in price and spec.

  • Mark

    How many times do we have to have this conversation? The past two years these rumors have been abound…verbatim.

    While I would love to see it/anything new….I’m not holding my breath any longer-

  • J. Everitt

    You say: “An RC211V-based 1000cc V5, an extremely complicated engine whose real-world performance hasn’t quite matched its technological promise. …” Could you please explain? In the first place, there has been no such engine built—only the race bike’s V-5 engine displacing approximately 990cc. In the second place, such an engine (for a street bike) wouldn’t necessarily be “extremely complicated;” certainly no more than previous Honda V-4 engines. The RC211V race bike’s engine is, in fact, not particularly complex. Neil Spaulding’s book, “MotoGP Technology,” characterizes the V-5 as “a complex design simply executed.” In the third place, how can you say an engine that hasn’t been built yet “hasn’t quite matched its technological promise”?
    Sorry—I just don’t understand.

  • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes

    J. I think you and Jeffrey are missing the point here. We’re not criticizing Honda, but merely describing their unique character. Instead of using an inline-four like everyone else, they chose to build a complicated V4, not because it was capable of vastly out performing the competition, but because they could. It’s the same with the V5, Honda could have gone with a more conventional engine configuration, but chose one that’s different than anyone else just because they wanted to be different.

  • http://www.tlzone.net crashtd

    the VFR targets a completely different segment than the CBR…this is Honda’s spec bike, not its track bike showcase. It was the first to show the V4 (as Wes pointed out), first to have variable valves, first to have ABS, etc. They use this bike to showcase their technology. If you had to peg it into a whole, sport-tourer would fit before sport-bike. Its a halo, but a different kind of halo. The VFR has been “underrated” because of this reason, people want to see it as something its not.

  • Ben

    Wes, just for a bit of clarification, Honda went the V4 and V5′s for more reason’s then just because they could. In the days of the RC30′s and RC45′s inline 4′s had a bit of a width problem, couple that to the fact that 90 deg twins have perfect primary balance, allow for extremely high revs, in a narrow package. I seem to remember the RC45′s making upwards of 190hp (crank maybe?) in SBK trim, given the engines didn’t last long, but amazing for the time and displacement. The V5 gave Honda a narrower package then the inline four 990′s, and added one more cylinder in an attempt to gain horsepower. Plus, alot of the knowledge they gained on the V5 applied to the V4, atleast theoretically. Both projects were done or started under Soichiros watch. I fear Honda’s spirit and drive, died with him.

  • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes

    Wow, I wouldn’t have thought calling a Honda V4 and V5 complicated would prove so controversial. Think of the V4s and V5s as fancy swiss watches and inline 4s or whatever as a $20 Casio digital. No one’s arguing that the Swiss watch doesn’t have appeal and unique characteristics, but ultimately, it’s not achieving a lot more than the Casio. I happen to love the engine in both the RC30 and RC45, just not in the current VFR.

  • Brandon

    As an owner of a 2001 VFR and having rode the 6th I have to agree with this article. The 6th gen is a step backwards from the 4th and 5th gen with the exception of looks. The VTEC is flawed, its gained weight and has lost the gear driven cams.

    These rumors have been around for a while, but they are defiantly picking up steam here lately. I truly hope this is all true. If it is, it could just be the bike that makes me sell my VFR and my 08 Busa just to get my hands on the new VFR1000.

    Come on Honda don’t screw it up!

  • Jeff

    Brandon… as a 01 owner your comments are expected. I disagree with the step backwards comment because backwards and forwards has not been defined. The 6th Gen has engine fueling issues. The VTEC is not an issue, nor is the lack of gear driven cams. The cams do give reliability without maintenance. That would be great if the rest of the bike didn’t need maintenance. With some commonly known mods, the fuel system can be converted from crap to amazing. The 6th gen suspension and frame is much better than the 4th or 5th gen. Lets talk electrical, fried you RR yet? All bikes have issues. But when you and Wes start making comments without substance it negates the credibility of your thoughts.

    I will be the first to agree that the VFR has gone in a different direction, and never more so than with the 6th gen. It is a sports/TOURING machine rather than a SPORTS/touring machine. Please for the sake of all VFR owners, speak knowledge and not emotion.

    RE the article, It could happen. Most company’s especially large manufacturing ones have thousands of patents on the go for everything under the sun. I’ll believe it when I see it. I do think the combined ABS is cool, but involved. Traction control will be expensive. The V5 will be an issue for the first few years and the 1000cc’s will be happily received.

  • Ricky Bobby

    “crashtd…The VFR has been “underrated” because of this reason, people want to see it as something its not.”

    Bingo! What he ^^ said. There in lies why Wes and his “bike journalist colleagues” feel the way they do about the current model. Change is never received well. For some it works, for some it doesn’t. Very curious to see what the new VFR when ever it surfaces will bring.

  • Brandon

    Jeff, perhaps your right “a step backwards” may be a bit harsh. The 6th gen is a great bike and there are other improvements. But VTEC was an issue in the first couple of years of the bike. Since then Honda has changed the point at which the VTEC has kicked in making it some what better at least from what Ive read. You say the VTEC is not an issue but then you go on to say “With some commonly known mods, the fuel system can be converted from crap to amazing.” Mods? Who’s talking mods? Nearly anybike can be made amazing with enough mods. Lets put a supercharger on the VFR and fix that horsepower “problem” while were at it lol.

    But back to subject. Yes I have had the RR problem on mine. But this seems to still be a problem on the 6th gens as well, though it has improved. The RR is very easily replaced however. Have you had problems with your cam chain tensioner yet? All bikes have some quirks here and there. With 33,000 miles on my vfr now I can say that the bike is rock solid with the exception of the RR which only had to bed changed once. So I don’t know what you mean by ” if the rest of the bike didn’t need maintenance”.

    I am speaking knowledge not emotion. Knowledge is the very reason why I did not trade my 5th gen on a 6th gen it did not feel like worth while trade. However, if my 5th gen did kick the bucket I would be happy to be the owner of a 6th gen.

    So lets try not to get to emotional over this ok?

  • K. Bailey

    It would be nice to see a new tricked out VFR, but not necessary as far as I’m concerned. Having logged close to 100k on VFR’s alone and with over 60k miles on my 02 I am more then satisfied with the abilities of the bike and have no need to update to the latest & greatest whatever! I’ve done NO maintenance on this bike and total cost over normal wear & tear items has been less then $300.(CCT @ 32k)
    Many people seem to dog the 6th gen, but I would venture that most who do have never owned one or even ridden one, Branden is that you(what I’ve read!/I am speaking knowledge not emotion???)?
    Every aspect of the Vtec is a step forward over the previous gen except examples that exhibit the lean fueling issues. Sure Not gaining weight would have been a plus, but many things had to be beefed up to carry the new optional hard bags.
    My 02 is stock(except suspension) and I have no Vtec or surge issues whatsoever!
    Don’t forget that the 02 VFR was Cycle Worlds “Best Open Class Street bike in the World”
    I agree that “fueling issues” are the weak link and trying to run the extremely lean 08 standards are no doubt the reason.
    Back to the 7th gen?
    Seems like it would be easy enough to de-tune a 990 for street use and get more use out of a major investment that was put into that990 V-5 that can no longer be used in MotoGP.

  • Mike

    The proposed “improvements” to the next generation Interceptor don’t impress me at all.

    I would prefer that Honda keep a “middleweight” 800cc V-4 bike in their range. Many of us don’t want a lightweight sportbike, an open class sportbike, a technological showcase, a chrome-laden show bike, or a heavy tourer. I like my 1992 VFR750 just as it is.

    The only problem it’s given me is the famous R/R, which was a quick fix. That durability and all-round capability is worth far more to me than top power bragging rights or long techno feature lists.

    Of course some people really don’t want a bike that excels in no one category but rather does all things well. They are more than welcome to buy more powerful sportbikes. For all-around use, though, everyone who has ever ridden a VFR says that it’s the best value machine for daily use. So what is the possible reason to add an additional cylinder, additional displacement, or more electronics??? More power can be gained without any of that mass- and cost-increasing gimmickry, just look at the latest 600cc machines.

    IMHO, if Honda dropped 30kg or so, then the Interceptor would be even more ideal. Oh, and ditch or dramatically improve VTEC. I’m not convinced that it adds value to the bike. But then, i wouldn’t know. I’m still adding miles to my 1992 model.

  • B. Noble

    I have to give my opinion because I want honda to build this bike and if they get it right I`ll be the first in line to buy one. I have roadraced locally for over 10 years and for as long as I can remember I have owned the fastest trickest bikes that I can buy and build, right now I own a very fast 07 CBR1000RR and a 04 ZX10R race bike. 18 months ago or so I met a woman that I seem to have fallen for so I started to look for a bike that I was just going to use to haul 2 people. The reason I bought an 07 VFR is it`s 200 pounds lighter and by far the sportiest of real sport touring rigs, at first I only rode the VFR with her on the back, but then I bought the acc. hard bags and that gave me the freedom to haul things that I only had a tank bag for on my CBR, now it`s gotten so I ride my VFR 80% of the time because I have finaly discovered the differance between hard edged sportbikes and a good allround street bike. Now I would have to say that I don`t think I could live without it. Now things that I have issues with, it has a real bad lean condition off closed throttle very hard to be smooth, the VTEC is not so good and has to go, I have gotten used to the linked braking system and like it but I am glad I could choose not to have ABS, the suspention needs to be fully adjustable and is way under dampened with a passenger, the VFR is fast enough with just me riding but needs more torque two up, and it shifts a little notchy. Now that you have read the above it`s easy to see how I would like the VFR1000 to be built, and remember fellow supersport fans right now is the best time ever if what you are looking for is a cutting edge 165hp 400LB superbike, lots of choises, but trying to find the perfect street bike is full of compromise, try putting a 38 year old woman on the back of your GSXR and see how that works out for you. Honda has a chance to be the first to build a true supersport touring bike not a 700LB Concours, like I started I just hope they don`t screw it up..

  • Wesley J

    Lots of good points and lotsa crap above so i wont get into it any more, all I’ll say is that I hope they keep the VFR as a sport/touring machine. No one needs a heavy version of the CBR….

  • http://www.imeem.com/people/UrLHU6j slarlWrocofs

    It’s amazing

  • cobra919

    Having just seen a press release photo and some sketchy details, I tend to believe that most of the above written article is TRUE. Check out the most recent edition of ‘Motorcycle News’; it’s right on the front cover!

    I own a ’02 VFR800 and love it because it fits me and I feel right on it, power and torque are more than enough for my wants and needs, and it’s a great looking machine. The ’09 looks amazing! Very much a RC211V knock-off.

  • K.C.

    I remember a long time ago that a motorcycle, do not remember which one, used the engine as a stressed member as a part of the frame to reduce weight, eventually, cracked the engine case from enduring structural stress over the years, and if I remember correctly, it was not an isolated individual case. I hope Honda has corrected that problem.

  • poundstrecher

    vfr with shaft drive and all the other gismo’s, will probably weigh a ton and have a meager 150 ponies. It may replace the current vfr but certainly won’t replace the blackbird. Honda have to up the anti on the zx14, hayabusa and k1200s, this will not do it I think the rumours are put out to MCN on purpose just to keep them of the mark. what we should be expecting is a lot of what’s been said but a 1200+cc with 180 bhp, V5, new honda abs system etc etc etc.
    Honda top hypo sports tourers always have a 8 to 10yr production life so anything they produce now will need to take the opposition 5yrs to catch up. So if these rumours are keeping you interested I should get ready to be amazed.

  • B.

    I was a dyed in the wool Honda fan for YEARS. All my street and dirt bikes were Honda. Honda apparel, Honda posters in the garage and Ride Red decals on my truck, the whole nine yards. Then as some of the comments here reflect, the Honda Motor Company went to sleep, while everyone else innovated. So I finally switched to an Italian sport bike, a different Japanese make for my sport touring bike and an Austrian dirt bike. I hope the new VFR is amazing, but like many of you say, I’m not holding my breath.

  • Gideon

    My 01 is pretty ideal. Sure it needed a Power Comander to starighten the pwer curve and take out the kink at 6000 revs where theytest it for noise and emissions, the K&N filter and Micron can give it a little more oomph so its makng 120horses at the back wheel. An NRC fixes the airflow for a six footer.

    Lastly a Ventura luggage system puts the goods on the back pillion where I want it instead of projecting out the sides.I can outride the guys on sportbkes because of the comfort and range. It goes better on a track than I (and most riders) have the ability to reach. Looks good, sounds great, feels terrific and finish second to none.

    How would I improve it?
    Give it 1000cc to give it a bit more low down oomph for zipping in traffic and being a bit lazier with the gears. A shaft would be nice so I didn’t need to wax chains.

    Traction control would be an added safety feature along with the linked brakes and ABS. Powershifters would be a great feature too.

    Hey Honda’s been reading my mind. Now just put a modulator into the lights, add the rotary steering damper from the CBR (I’ve only had one tankslapper on my VFR but it was a doozy).

    It will be for me the perfecr tailormade bike. I spiritual successor to the Brough Superior.

    Wih the new bike I will take a good step forward. Domo Arigato Honda.

  • poundstretcher

    Seems a shame that honda spend big bucks on development and people have to fit all the guff Gideon has to make the bike work. It’s hard to imagine a serious tank slapper on a modern day bike I think the last one I had was on a CBX 1000 six cylinder when it first came out. The VFR 750 was a great bike in it’s time but the 800 is really only a commuter bike now, in the same class as the GSX 750 etc. I’m no racer but I know it wouldn’t have the performance to keep me interested on a track day, I presume when you say you can outride the sportsbike riders you mean by staying in the saddle for longer at a much lesser pace. I do some pretty long journeys and my ageing bones told me to get something with a more relaxed riding style than I had been accustomed to, it had to be Honda for the reliabilty and finish but a vfr 800 trial for a few days proved it wasn’t going to be that. Enter the seconhand prerestricted 99 Blackbird gotta be the best bang for the buck out there in the sports tourer range I’ve waited 5+ years for honda to upgrade this model so unless they come up with the goods this year I think I will keep the bird and add a fireblade to the stable for the not so long rides.

  • John Joss

    Honda’s VFR lost its way with the costly-to-service VTEC that contributed nothing to performance. The VFR, great though it is (I have 80,000 miles on my ’99) as a versatile sport-tourer, has inherent problems that, if fixed, would have made it peerless. Like essentially every Honda except the Goldwing, it has no storage capacity whatsoever (my bike has a Sargent seat whose rear half can be left off, to open up storage under the rear-seat cover, but it’s awkward to access–Honda could have fixed that).
    If Honda provided the VFR with a little more power (say, 20 BHP) an under-engine exhaust system and bags narrower than the bars, to permit lane splitting, and had it lose 25 Kg or so, it would be the perfect sport-tourer. As it has, the bike has been surpassed now by others and Honda’s unwillingness or inability to keep it up to date and provide more power and storage space has made it much less desirable.

  • Leon Coetzer

    Guys, I am a lover of the flying wing brand but both my latest bikes are Suzukis. I have always loved the VFR and owned four through the years. I think the V-motor is a nightmare anyway since it requires double everything and will always carry a mass penalty. Honda will be better of building an inline 3 replacement for the bird and VFR

  • Leon Coetzer

    Finger trouble, Inline 4

  • naf22

    I agree with poundstretcher everyone who has owned a Blacbird want’s a replacement as good or better. I imagine there are a lot of dollars waiting to be spent for the right spec bike being produced but not for the rumoured VFR spec. I think we need something a bit more tasty performance wise. Honda are allways slow coming up with the goods but will be well aware of the demand for such a bike and I am confident they will get it up and running in the end, as Wes said just because they can.

    • Ausie Pat

      I have owned and loved my Blackbird , nicknamed “SR71″ for 6yrs. All my bikes have been Honda’s, dirt bikes inc.as in my opinion there is no better. However if the so called “Bird replacement” does not go over and above my base hopes of increased power,lighter weight and friendly for long day rides with plenty of zip through twisty bits of blacktop. I will be upgrading to a Bussa as much as I hate to say it if it falls short. Honda give us what we all want, a new lighter more nimble punchier Bird or “VFR” if you like with some worthwhile TECH updates. My ideal bike for all occasions..out do the others in this sports tourer class for a change.

  • poundstrecher

    Yeah
    This is the only motorcycle segment they are not superior in at present, the rest of the bike range look really tasty compared with other makes. I have a couple of friend who recently bought R1′s and are pig sick after riding another mates 08 CBR1000RR. Come on Honda where is it?

  • BB

    Well, I notice that Honda is taking their sweet old time releasing the ’09 models. Usually they’ve done it by this time in September. Hopefully that means there’s some big news.

  • erp

    i’m just as excited over the prospect of a new vfr as anyone. not convinced that a v5 makes sense from any perspective, but i’d happily buy one this spring if it’s available.

    please god, don’t let it be the minger that the cbr1000/yzf-r1/zx-10 have become, though.

  • Scot

    I just wonder if Honda has postponed their release to reconsider what they want to build in the wake of the economic chaos. With car manufactures, they cannot just scrap a design that was years in planning but maybe a bike manufacturer does not have as much invested.

  • JD

    The oblique criticism of the Honda Interceptor and its V-4 engine are inappropriate. The 6th generation VFR’s “mission” was muddled by Honda. From its inception the Interceptor was a technology showcase, but it was also a serious sporting machine. It established a racing and street reputation which the current iteration fails to uphold. Currently, Honda markets the VFR as a “sport-tourer”, de-tuning the engine and softening the chassis. The “new” VFR V-5 will have to return to the model’s origin, or fall into the same “neither fish, nor fowl” confusion as the current model.

  • james

    I have read an article from a japanese magazine on the 2009 vfr 1000 and it is Not a v-5.Yes v-4,I think it looks really nice with a lot of the vfr lineage apparent. I personally was in favor of a much more RCV type of flavor but I`m sure they will still sell a boatload of these. If the thickness of the seat is an indicator its going to be really plush and pretty tame. I will guess that it will be about 60-70# overweight and about the same 60-70 hp underpowered. The article said release date is october in tokyo,so I guess it ought to be any day. I guess I have to settle on the 08 cbr 1000,440# 175 HP

    • Jeff

      Check the Honda press release for October. Same bike in black. I’ve owned them all from the beginning. Just like the rest of us , I await the “perfect one “. So far, the most comfortable was the 96 and 97, best motor 2000, best chassis and gearing 2002 onward. I ride these a bit harder than most,and solo. Ground the feelers, pegs, and brake levers off every bike until the 02 model. As heavy as it is, the extra stiffness finally allowed the full use of the tires to their edges with the settings cranked up. This was done to better handle the weight of a pillion and bags, which the previous models were not very good at unless the rear settings were fully topped out. It worked out great for heavy cornering one up. The later gearing made up somewhat for the weight and relative power deficit.The vtec is annoying on full throttle corner exits, sometimes dangerous. It takes what it the bikes greatest strength – electric motor like power delivery and
      puts a studder step in it, at either the old or the new switch over point. The ideal would be the 2000 motor in the 02 bike. Linked brakes are actually fantastic, never stands up during application in HEAVY cornering – important to me.
      Can carry very heavy speed into and through corner and use those binders at will with no ill effects on your line. Very few bikes of any type will do that, period. I do miss the whine of those gear driven cams, but they only offered a reliability fix for soft parts in very early bikes
      and a weight gain, not a performance increase . When set up correctly, these later bikes will pull the front wheel under full power through first and if shifted quickly enough at full throttle you get a nice little lift and headshake
      going into second. If ridden properly, and you keep the revs over 7000, these bikes are dead stable and will corner with the best out there. They will brake with the best around also if you have the nerve to keep the front squealing, which it will, time after time on a non abs bike. Very reliable, repeatable performance. You just have to squeeze the lever really hard and not use the
      pedal . They will outbrake most any bike around, especially with sticky tires. Sadly, in a straight line there is not much they can keep up with, not even a 600. Looks like more of the same for 2009. As Chicago Cubs fans keep saying,
      ” Maybe Next Year “.

  • Taglicious

    okay the only reason I came onto here is through a link from http://vfrworld.com/
    I recently have been seeing (here and there) VFR 1000 from 1984, and have been wondering how much work it would be to slam that bad boy into a nice rolling chassis. As soon as I showed interest(in my own warped mind) I started looking and came up with a few for sale on EBAY and throughout the U.S. What would it take to duplicate, and eventually update/tweak the ’84 V-4 to become a superbike. I obviously just started pondering this, and have no real research done as of yet. But soon, any and all correspondence is appreciated and welcomed positive or negative. I am intrigued by this and will keep my eyes and ears open… GOOD LUCK HONDA bueno suerte everyone else ;)

  • bruxell

    Hrm… a better VFR is certainly called for, but I’m hoping the RC211 engine makes it’s way into something sportier… Come on Honda, how about an NR1000?

  • Hatchetman240

    To those who say a VFR 800 is the end all of sporty-tourers, I will have to strongly disagree. While it was at one time great, there is no area where this old engine exceeds the Triumph Sprint. Certainly the Sprint is exceeded in some areas by many bikes, but if you are going for a perfectly balanced bike that feels sporty in the corners while giving you the comfort and the luggage then the VFR is just an over priced Sprint. Really, if the VFR came in $3000 cheaper it would be worth it, but as it stands it is an over weight and underpowered machine relative to the Sprint.

    If Honda puts this VFR1000 out, I am certain they will take the title back from Triumph, but until this vapor-bike materializes it appears Honda is just blowing smoke.

  • Jim

    I’ll admit I’m not the authority on new bikes, I like classics, but I have a 1984 VF1000F with over 50 grand and no rebuilds. The Honda V4 is insanely awesome, and I would love to see a manufacturer with the juevos to build a bike like they used to. The Ninja 900, FJ1100, just insane. People who ride these old bikes are really nuts, myself included. I love the tech, I’m excited to see Honda prove themselves best, but I really wish somebody would build a bike like they used to. Raw.

  • Gabriel

    ANYWAY YOU PUT IT , I WOULD REALLY WHANT TO RIDE A V5 ENGINE MOTORCYCLE!!!
    AND I REALLY THINK THAT HONDA WILL DELIVER THE GOODIES! :-) BUT IT MUST HAVE GEAR DRIVEN CAMS! :-)

    • jason

      well i ride a 2007 vfr which love .bought new in nz for around $nz 16,000 .have owned heeps of bikes . the vfr is the best so far . my view is that honda make some of the best bikes available . absolutely reliable .went for a run on a 2008 fireblade recently . a really fantastic bike . cheers .

  • Greg

    I owned the first iteration of the Interceptor introduced back, when? ’83? Anyway, I can tell you that there was no question of the VFR’s mission at introduction. It as fast, powerful, light. And the V-4 wasn’t just some gimmick; done because it could be done. It allowed a much more narrow machine with better weight distribution. It was a blast to ride in the city, the twisties of the Laguna Mtns of San Diego, or on the highway. It was SO different from the sport bikes of the day. In today’s world, it has become ho-hum, which is too bad. I have to admit that when re-entered motorcycle riding in 2001 (laid off while raising my family) I was disappointed in what the Interceptor had become.

  • buddhika

    When, I was a baby my father had Honda CD125T.
    Now, I am traveling with my son & Wife.
    3 Generations one and only choice HONDA CD125T Benly.
    I perform incresible performances with Top Speed.
    Best Handling, Breaking, Safty.
    My bike can understand our heart beet.
    Maximem Pleasure for our family.
    We love HONDA. CD125T Benly are Great.
    May Live long.
    Buddhika – Sri Lanka

  • jdiyef

    As soon as I heard about the new VFR, I sold my ’98 VFR as quickly as I could. I was hoping for something a little lighter, a little quieter (I hate that “beloved” cam gear noise) and a little sportier.

    Overall, I am very happy with my black 2002 (Canadian model). I view it as a tourer that looks like a sport bike. My top 3 pet peeves:

    1) VTEC. Fantastic power boost though it may be, it is not welcome in the middle of a turn. From a marketing perspective, it must be perceptible to the rider. For the aggressive rider, the VTEC must be imperceptible. Attention Honda – just put a VTEC light on the dashboard.

    2) Helmet lock. This really grinds me. My CB350 (yes, I’m that old) had a key-operated helmet lock that took 2 seconds to use. The VFR makes you take off the bloody seat, thread a needle, and re-assemble it. Totally unnecessary pain in the ass. Honda – Spend the extra $1 and give us a break.

    3) Weight. I can feel it in the turns, but it doesn’t seem to help the ride all that much. Expansion strips still beat the hell out of me. Most important, if it starts to tip over (at rest), it takes all I’ve got to keep it off the ground. I have to try and save it because I don’t think I could pick it up without help.

    Other than that, the bike is great to look at and a ball to ride.

    Oak Hill, VA

  • Mark

    I own a 2006 VFR. I have been interested to see what Honda might come up with as a replacement. I have read all to previous comments with interest. The current model appears to be in need of an update after 7 years. Should Honda try to make another sports bike (Fireblade) or should it make another touring bike (ST 1300. It does not make sense to replicate what is alrrady there. So the problem is to make a motorcycle which has the best aspects of both a sports bike and a tourer. A bigger capacity V4 would seem to make sense without the need for the VTEC stepup. I find the stepup is not a big deal, as I only use it for for rapid over taking. In top gear, it comes in at about 150+ kmh. So it is not an issue with normal touring. I have no access to a race track, so can make no comment on this use. I do know that as a tourer, the standard bars are low. After market Helibars seem to help, but then the 2 screens I have are not right.

    In summary, the compromise is difficult to perfect. PS I am happy with my VFR

  • Brent

    Is the VFR 1000 being launched. Photos look great. Lately only reading about 1200 which is an ugly bike compared to 1000

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