Details: Moto Guzzi V12 X concept

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Like the Moto Guzzi 12 Le Mans concept, these are the first studio shots
every published on the supermoto-like Moto Guzzi V12 X. A lot of the
details differ from the Le Mans, here’s a rundown. >

Oil coolers: there’s actually two oil coolers and a rectifier hidden behind the screen. The cutout in that screen feeds cooling air to them.

Suspension: all current production spec stuff. Hmm…interesting.

Brake lines: routed through the triple clamp for an incredibly clean look.

Rear wing: similar to the Le Mans, but lower and more stylistically appropriate for a giant supermoto.

Numberboards
: hide the intakes to the airbox integrated at the rear of the frame.

Centerstand: look closely and you can see the front-hinged centerstand wrapping around the sump.

Frame: made from rotational moulding nylon polymer, like the Le Mans.

Tank/Seat Unit: this hinges at the front and opens via remote control, like the Le Mans

Footpegs: no mechanical connection is made between the foot levers and the shifter or the rear brake, like the Le Mans.

Heat Sinks: the finned metal sections on the sides of the engine aren’t oil coolers, their heat sinks just like you’ll find on your computer and on the Le Mans.

Rearview Cameras: Pierre says these are 100 percent production feasible with a reasonable cost, like the Le Mans.

Filler Cap/Start Button: a dirt-style plastic screw top.

Make sure you check out our interview with Miguel Galluzzi and Pierre Terblanche on the future of Moto Guzzi.

Note to other publications: feel free to republish these images. We included subtle watermarks in the hope that you’ll link back to us.

  • Hayes

    I like this much better than the Le Mans. Give it a conventional looking headlight and I would dig it even more. Still seems some of the tech is not needed or entirely useful.

  • http://muthalovin.com the_doctor

    Man, this is hot. I would fashion up a #1 board to put up front and only ride during the day.

    Wes, can you tell me why I need a rearview camera?

  • noone1569

    Where do I send my deposit? This could compliment my Firebolt very well.

  • CanOf WhoopAss

    Oooooh oooooh oooooh…. this thing is so hot its making wet just looking at it.

  • Richard Gozinya

    So essentially they’re using a common frame, motor and exhaust with different body work, handlebars, and suspension? I remember when I first saw these concepts, the hinged body thing was a little off putting, but it’s starting to grow on me. Could conceivably have different hinged bodies, for different rides or moods or whatever, depending on how difficult it would be to swap them out. Couple that with electronically adjustable suspension, some sort of adjustable handlebars, and the only other thing you’d have to worry about would be the rubber.

    I doubt that’s what they have in mind, but it’s a thought.

  • caferacer

    Want. This could complement my ’72 Eldorado very well.

    The seat-tank opens by remote control?! Like the goofy stashbox on the Stelvio? I’m sure that won’t break… There’s a weird solution to a problem I don’t think I have.

  • Chuluun

    They’re gonna have a hard time dressing THIS up as an Aprilia for Tom … or his stunt double.

    Very nice indeed.

  • jeff

    Wow this is HOT HOT HOT.

    I have some concerns though:

    * How’s that plastic frame going to hold up to heat and UV? Will it flex too much? Better not break any frame components, ’cause you probably won’t be able to weld it…

    * The cylinder-head cameras are an incredibly stupid idea. Lots of electronics and wiring, plus you add the vibration of the engine to the vibration of the screen-holding-arms for an extra-fuzzy view. And 10X the cost when you break one. WTF? Mirrors are simple, cheap, and do the job well.

    * I’m all for shift-by-wire and rear-brake-by-wire as long as the action is smooth and reliable. I’d be more likely to trust it if it was built in Japan and not Italy.

    * That rear light-and-plate-holder doesn’t look like something suitable for production. It’s held on one side by flimsy looking mounts. A little bit of mud is going to rip it right off the bike.

    I’m in for a test ride. Best looking bike that didn’t come out of Austria.

  • Sean Smith

    And the award for cleanest watermarks ever goes to Hellforleathermagazine.com…

  • http://Twitter.com/greatistheworld Will

    HFL also has a logo that improves the picture itself.

    I enjoy this. Very heavy. Very RPK. looks like it wants to kill me. I enjoy that MGuzzi has styling worth exploring and explaining.

  • http://greatjoballweek.blogspot.com Case

    I love the look of this bike. I am not enthusiastic about the cameras and remote-control crap for the seat. I think that is the sort of stuff you put on a concept bike to try it out but scrap when you get to production.

    The rest of it looks like it means business. Superb. Please please please build this motorcycle.

  • Oleg

    It looks like it will cost about as much as a harley, with useless tech-bling instead of chrome-bling and probably weight about as much to boot. Why does a supermoto need a huge, wide, shaft-driven v-twin? Why does it need electronic bling and engine that is guaranteed to get damaged in an inevitable drop? No thanks.

  • MTGR

    This is what happens when good designers trust their instincts rather than trying to apply a bunch of bs about embodying a target customer.

    Even if you hate it, like Oleg seems to, you can’t deny it is fresh and stands out from the crowd while still clearly being a Guzzi.

    P.S. Oleg, there was a time I thought just like you, but the world of Motorcycles becomes a lot larger, more diverse, and far more interesting when you choose to look at more than just raw performance potential. Performance needs to be there, no doubt, but it does not need to be everything. This thing is not really a supermoto, but neither is the Hypermotard or KTM or BMW versions. Those bikes are a ton of fun though and still plenty quick, which is likely the goal here as well.

    Personally, I have come full circle to the point where I welcome the simple nature of air cooling, the uniqueness of a tranverse crank, and the clean look and low maintenance of a shaft drive. Add Italian style and heritage and you have a lot to like. Now if they could just get a little realistic with the pricing…

    • Oleg

      I am not so much concerned with performance but rather the fact that the bike is not designed for the purpose it’s looks would suggest. What is it for exactly? It looks like a conflicted mix of parts designed for the single purpose of looking unique, kind of like putting upside down forks and sportbike rear sets on a fat boy. I am not sure anyone would dare taking it off road, and for street riding a regular supermoto or even a standard would probably be more comfortable and just as fun. The whole thing is pretty similar in fact to that giant sport cruizer that ducati is making, style for style’s sake.

      • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

        It’s probably a little more similar to the Ducati Hypermotard that it clearly emulates.

  • Random

    Is there something in the works here at HFL for the Strada concept?

    Personally, I’d rather have a simpler bike. Drawing from the past doesn’t have to be putting drum brakes and such, obviously, but I’d prefer Guzzis with simple rearview mirrors and common shifters/rear brakes. As for the nylon frame, the repair should be the same as the non-steel ones: scrap it. Its stiffness seems to be the real issue.

    On the whole, the details are nice. It’s a pity none of those looks a little more like the MGS-01 or have a half fairing.

  • Rooster

    Looks very cool. It also looks very heavy.

    I’m not a big fan of these heavy bikes for supermoto riding. You’ll never take them off-road and they can’t jump. Especially with a plastic frame.

    It goes against everything that I believe a supermoto should be. Very light weight, durable enough to jump and/or crash without disintegrating and with enough power to give you a kick in the pants when you ask for it.

    Still makes me happy to see the sector growing though.

    • Matt

      Perhaps there should be a specific name dedicated to these heavier/more powerful supermoto-esque road bikes. The supermoto moniker sticks because it’s easily recognizable, but perhaps the hypermoto name given to the alleged race series for this type of bike should be used instead. There are certainly enough of these to warrant a defining name, but who wants to be that guy trying to advance motorcycling’s version of “streets ahead?”

      That said, I like this bike. I hope that the X gets pillion accommodations and is competitive in price/power/weight/handling with the 990SM, Hypermotard, and Dorsoduro class of bikes. I’ll probably never be able to afford one until a much better class of bike hits the market, but I’m cool with a richer guys sloppy seconds.

  • Scott

    this is the best of the 3 concepts. I’m sure it would be all mucked up by the time it came off the production line, looking nothing like the bike pictured.

  • JohninVT

    There are interesting elements on all three prototypes but they are fugly. Terblanche ruined the 900ss and designed the single ugliest Ducati ever made with the 999.

    Other than the Guzzi drivetrain, there’s not much in the concepts that appeals to me. There are too many pretentious and/or over-styled details.

    • Gerard

      900ss, yes, it was bad. 999? No way… it’s a brilliant design, just too far ahead of the market.

  • MTGR

    I don’t think anyone who makes these 1000cc Hyper/Supermotard style streebikes actually expects them to be used as real supermotos, so maybe they do need their own name.

    But just like SUVs work for the average family because they have interior space, a high vantage point in traffic, and the ability to drive through some gravel or snow with some safety margin – while not looking like an econobox – these types of bikes can make great do-almost-everything bikes that are fun to ride and cool to look at.

    Not everything has be locked into its own little niche and never go elsewhere. Hell, a Triumph twin used to be everything from a commuter to a road racer to a dirt tracker to a motocrosser – sometimes without even swapping tires- and that is the kind of thinking that created supermoto in the first place.

    Point is, just because a bike has some performance or styling traits from a particular market segment does not mean it can only be used in that category, or that it must perform better than all others already in that category. You want a true Supermoto, buy one of those instead. Personally, for the type of riding I usually do these days I need more range, comfort, and street ability than a true supermoto offers even if I can appreciate how fun they are. A lot of other guys feel the same so why not market a bike to us? I think most people are smart enough for the existence of this type bike not to diminish what a true supermoto represents.

    You really think all BMW GS owners ride around the whole world? How many Jeeps do you see that never leave pavement? Nothing wrong with enjoying an image as long as you are realistic about why you are doing it. Hell, Harley owners all across the whole US dress in bad-ass leather one night then go to work as accountants the next day. So what? They worked hard for their hogs and leather, let them live the fantasy they paid for.

  • http://harqueb.us Mike S

    I could go for this one if it came with conventional mirrors, brakes, and shifter.

    Does the bike shut off if you walk away without pushing the STOP button?