How small is the MV Agusta F3?

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Before it was unveiled, CEO Giovanni Castiglioni told us the MV Agusta F3 “will be the smallest supersport ever produced.” We saw the F3 at EICMA, but without dimensions and without any other motorcycles close by for comparison. So, wanting to see just how small this thing is, we decided to do a visual comparison between it and its big brother, the F4. The white silhouette you see above is the F3, super imposed over the F4. As you can see, it’s demonstrably smaller.

Now there is one problem with this comparison. Lacking official dimensions for the F3 or the ability to shoot the two bikes next to each other ourselves (yet), we’re relying on a visual comparison between two photographs taken from slightly different angles and using slightly different lenses. As such, treat this as a rough guide, not a definitive comparison.

So what can we see? Well, the F3 appears to be shorter both overall and in wheelbase, but retains the same seat height, with that seat located slightly forward in comparison to its big brother. That makes for a shorter reach to the bars.

We do have dimensions for the 2010 MV Agusta F4. The seat height is 33.84 inches; the overall length is 82.63 inches and the wheelbase is 56.27 inches. For the F3 to match the dimensions of the Triumph Daytona 675, a close rival on both spec and price, it’ll need to shrink that overall length by 3.1 inches and drop the wheelbase by 1.4 inches. Judging by these silhouettes we made, the F3 will have a taller seat height than they Daytona, matching that of the F4.

Maybe not by teensy tiny current 600 standards, but the F4 is already a very small motorcycle. That’s me riding it in the above photo and even at 6’ 2” I dwarf the F4. My particularly large noggin appears to emphasize this. The four-cylinder superbike feels nearly as slim as a v-twin, meaning the very tall seat isn’t a problem, we’d expect at least a similar slimness from the F3.

In the gallery below you’ll also find comparisons between the F3 and F4’s components. The 675 is on the left in all of them. Giovanni tells us the F3 will retail for €11,500 in Italy (undercutting the Triumph by €90) when it goes on sale next fall. Looking at some of these images you can see where MV has saved some money in comparison to the $18,500 F4. Fairing fasteners are allen bolts rather than DZUS, the mirrors are less intricate and black rather than body color, the headlight doesn’t use an LED/HID combo.

There’s currently no word on when or if the F3 will debut in the US, but we’re working on that.

  • Kyle

    I really really want this bike. I feel like the price is gonna push it to Duc 848 range though. But 200cc short of a liter bike seems like a bit too much for a first bike. Then again 12grand of italian engineering does too.

    Time to get a second hand 600 for february i think.

    • Nick

      hahahahaha yeah I wouldn’t suggest either of those as a first bike. I wouldn’t even recommend a 600 for that matter.

      • Kyle

        well I definatly wasn’t planning on getting a duc. When I was looking at the Daytona 675 some people said it wasn’t too bad for a starter bike.

        but yea I know everyone advocated 250s alot

        • Nick

          Personally I’d get the Honda or Kawasaki 250. Wes has given some really good coverage of the Honda and I’d consider it myself if I were in the market. Ride it and learn for a year or two and it will have good resale value when it’s time to upgrade. I started on a 200 several years back and I’m glad I did :)

          • Kyle

            I have been eyeing both, but honestly names like ninjette ate a bit of a put off if we’re honest.

            Plus I’ll be able to save a lot more money

            • Myles

              Have you ever been on two? Moped, dirtbike, anything? Taken MSF course? Modern 600 four cylinder is probably faster than any vehicle you’ve ever been around. You can learn on them, but be careful – imagine learning how to drive in a Lamborghini with no ABS, traction control, AWD, etc. And no seatbelt/airbag/roof/doors/floor either. Just sayin’.

              I’d suggest getting a SV650 (after you take the three day MSF course). Cheap, reliable as all hell, and a ton of fun. Very popular track bike, maintains value well. Enough power to comfortably ride on the interstate, but not so much that you won’t be able to have fun without going 3x the speed limit. Don’t get the “s” model, fairings are for pussies.

              • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

                + 1, just get a banged up old SV. Then, when you crash it (note: that’s when, not if) it won’t be such a big deal.

                Starting on a slower bike like the SV will make you a better rider as it will develop your skills more while still offering dynamics that are similar to those of modern sportsbikes, so the skills you learn will be applicable when you’re finally ready for that F3 in five years or so.

                It’s not us being dicks, you’ll have more fun this way.

                • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate BeastIncarnate

                  +1. A used SV is the biggest bike I’d be at all comfortable recommending to a new rider. Even though it’s slower than the latest supersports, you will be breaking most speed limits before the end of second gear. SVs haul while being more forgiving, and more affordable, than a supersport.

                  Though I would like to have a Ninja 250 sitting around to ride the snot out of from time to time.

              • incon

                +1 SV great starter bike

    • tears

      If you must have a Duc as a first bike I suggest a Monster 600. A 695 will be too much and a 620 is questionable…

      • miles_prower

        Personally, having owned a Monster 620, I would not recommend a small-displacement Monster as a first bike. You will get bored of it *very* quickly. I would instead get a 200-ish dual-sport or supermoto. A lot funner to ride, and a heck of a lot less money needed to fix it if you crash it. (And unlike Wes, I say *if*, not *when*.)

      • http://www.ClevelandCycleWerks.com scottydigital

        My 1st bike was a Duc 620 Monster. Beautiful, quick, but not Jap 600cc quick, and as a track bike, the chassis is very predictable, the motor is very steady, laying down steady traction, and good lap times. By the start of my 2nd year on the 620 Duc, I was passing liter bikes and 600′s, that bike tought me control, because it sure as hell did not have much power!!

        …….Or you could buy a CCW Cafe bike…. Just saying. :) had to throw that in there.

        http://www.clevelandcyclewerks.com/bikes/tha-misfit/

    • incon

      I’m looking at ordering one of these or getting a 848 as my next bike.

      • Myles

        I would grab this over the Duck. You can tell the ladeeez that “it’s the bike from BATMAN, but only newer! I’m Christian Bale! I’m a mega trillionaire! What color panties are you wearing?”

        Plus, at low rpm the duck sounds like truck.

  • Nick

    I really like this bike, too. I’m sure it is technically similar to the Triumph but in the looks department the MV has the clear win. No offense Daytona, but MV had me at the exhaust.

    • incon

      I love the tune on the Daytona. Wanting to hear the F3!!!!

  • RT Moto

    That is a pretty small bike if these silhouettes turn out to be fairly accurate. Being 5’10″ I see it fitting me perfectly. All we need is the color schemes to draw me even closer.

  • fasterfaster

    As far as I can tell, there’s no (new) sportbike on the planet I’d rather own. Then again, I’m 5’8″, and would rather have less weight and width than more power compared to my current R6. Fingers crossed that the EU pricing translates at current exchange rates.

  • Roman

    Triumph is due for a redesign for the Daytona 675. Hope this make them step their game up a little.

  • tears

    If that’s the case then at 6’4″ I’ll look like a gorilla on a seesaw.

  • http://www.firstgenerationmotors.blogspot.com Emmet

    Another bike I won’t be able to ride comfortably! Pretty soon, we’ll have to be horse jockeys to ride sportbikes :/

    • robotribe

      As someone who’s closer in stature to horse jockey rather than NBA point guard, all I have to say is, “S’BOUT DAMN TIME!”.

      • http://www.ClevelandCycleWerks.com scottydigital

        AMEN!

      • incon

        I’m a short ass and I’ve learnt to almost balance my bike at a stand still.
        I’m 5’10 and almost any bike I jump on are great! Dirt/Trail bikes kill me when onroad tho. I know you need travel length but that much?

        • robotribe

          Bro, 5’10″ isn’t what most would refer to as “short”. Consider yourself above average and as you said, comfy on most bikes.

          I doubt this F3 would be too small for you.