Vyrus 986 M2: hub-center steering, affordable price, Moto2 eligible

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This is the Vyrus 986 M2, it’s not only Ascanio Rodorigo’s take on an “aggressively priced,” Moto2 racer, but also a new hub-center steered road bike. This isn’t just a concept either, the first deliveries are scheduled for March. Motoblog.it is at the Italian Motor Expo and has more live pictures, plus there’s more details from Vyrus below.

Like all other Moto2 bikes, the 986 M2 is powered by the 599cc inline-four out of a Honda CBR600RR, that engine will also power the road bike.

“Our plans is to build a motorcycle that is destined for Moto2, offered at a very competitive price compared to what is currently proposed by the category, but with advanced technology,” says Ascanio. “In addition, there will be a replica road approved to offer our loyal customers around the world. We have already started production in pre-production version of the road, with deliveries in March 2011.”

  • cookey

    I’m aching to know how much affordable is?

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      I don’t think they’ve said yet. When they do, we’ll let you know. I’d definitely put “affordable” in quotes though.

      • cookey

        for sure, I guess we’ll be talking a shade under what Suter and the rest charge…

  • Frosty_spl

    If it’s not 95% carbon, maybe it will be in the low $30s.

  • Peter

    I love the look of this bike. The designer seems determined to show off its mechanical complexity. Those pink (red?) tie-rods (hydraulic lines? Magic tubes?) do this really well. By highlighting one technical bit, they bring the rest of the forest of gadgetry into relief.

    Industrial rococo at its best. Now if they would just be kind enough to make it cost less than a nice sports car…

  • Michael

    I’ll give them my first-born for that.

  • http://greatjoballweek.blogspot.com/ Case

    I don’t want to serve up a big batch of haterade, but I think this thing is meh. It’s gimmicky and blah. Tom Cruise will probably buy a fleet of them for his Thetan Level VII’s. Please take more pictures of the WeeBR!

    • Michael

      Funny. Tom Cruise already owns a Vyrus.

      He can probably give you a virus too.

    • http://rohorn.blogspot.com rohorn

      That’s Z1 riders said about them new plastic covers Ninja bikes. Welcome to old age…

    • Cajun58

      WTF is meh anyway and who cares if Looney Toon Cruise owns a Vyrus. As is often the case with blind prejudice your hatred of the hub steering system is misplaced and unjustified.

  • 2ndderivative

    I’m guessing it’s anti-dive, but are there any other benefits to hub steering?

    • Michael

      I would imagine it creates a lower center of gravity as well. The riders that have ridden it usually say it’s an incredibly stable set up.

    • fasterfaster

      tunable dive characteristics that allow you to isolate braking and bump forces, and structurally much more efficient than a pair of tubes cantilevered off the head stock, so much much lighter than convention.

      It will take a lot of development for this to catch up to the decades of investment and refinement that have gone into race-ready conventional forks, but there is much more performance potential in this design.

      • Trent

        I’m pretty sure ELF Honda tried this in WSBK in the 80s. I’m not convinced that it is not one if those things that works on paper but doesn’t work in real life.

        • Glenngineer

          As much as I love it, I’m in the same boat. HCS systems can provide real, significant advantages over traditional forks, but the real world execution of control linkage/cabling/hydraulics, yaw pivot geometry, hub bearings, etc, all the design elements unique to HCS add up to a lot of engineering challenge that may be unpractical to ever package in an economical or completely reliable way.

          • fasterfaster

            You may be right, but no one has given it a good shot in awhile. Materials and manufacturing have come a long way since ELF. I’m excited to see anyone put an honest effort into going against the grain. To me, this is the most exciting bike on the grid since Britten’s.

    • Barry

      Much like the BMW “swingarm-like” system, it’s not that it’s inherently better/worse. There are advantages to dive/geometric stability, and you get less surface area on a shock compared to forks, so less stiction(good), but also you tend to get more unsprung weight and more complicated joints/mechanisms(bad). The real problem is that the common fork is so really well developed/understood, you can make a much more advanced system immediately, without doing a whole lot of research/innovation. If you look at some of the BMW endurance racing machines, they get dramatically better results than you’d think they would given their power/weight ratios, partially because they’re so much more stable on braking/tire wear(suspension).

  • http://www.firstgenerationmotors.blogspot.com Emmet

    I’d be surprised if it was less than $30k. I am excited to see HCS coming to the market at an “affordable” price.

  • http://www.postpixel.com.au mugget

    Oh hell yeah! I’d just love to see one of those on the road.

  • Frosty_spl

    Wasn’t there a Yamaha touring bike in the 90′s with hub steering?

  • Isaac

    This bike gives me a chubby.

  • Robert

    I owned a GTS1000, very cool bike. That front end wouldn’t dive much at all even under the most extreme braking I could put it under. Pretty rare bike here in the states, I believe less than 500 ever came and was considered a sales flop. I would own another if I could.

  • Philip

    Are you guys forgetting the other production HCS bike – the Bimota Tesi 3D?

    • http://rohorn.blogspot.com rohorn

      As I understand it, some/most/all(?) of the Tesi development, prototyping, and production work was done by Vyrus.

      • Philip

        The Tesi 2D is, in fact, a Vyrus. But the original 1D was the work of Pierluigi Marconi (who is now at Benelli) and the 3D was all done by Bimota themselves.

        Ironically, Benelli was supposed to be working on HCS inline four a few years back. Who knew Vyrus would beat them to it…

  • hdtogt

    What is the advantage of this type of front suspension over the BMW telelever?

    • Glenngineer

      The Telelever is a bandaid over many of the short comings of a telescopic fork. This design is vastly more tunable for overall suspension behavior, braking characteristics, and steering geometry, especially steering geometry through the suspensions travel.

  • John

    2ndderivative:
    I’m guessing it’s anti-dive, but are there any other benefits to hub steering?
    hdtogt:
    What is the advantage of this type of front suspension over the BMW telelever?

    Tony Foale has a couple of articles on the stiffness (http://tonyfoale.com/Articles/Steer/STEER.htm) and anti-dive (http://tonyfoale.com/Articles/Dive/DIVE.htm)
    comparisons of telescopic forks and some alternative front suspensions (hub-centre, Hossack, etc.) if you’re nterested in a medium-technical discussion.

  • Kyle

    My god I need a 100 photo high Rez gallery of this bike its so sexy

  • Charlie

    Major potential.

  • Philip

    What I’d like to know is how they address the front tire change issue? A front tire on the Bimota Tesi 3D is at least a 2 hour job!

    • Barry

      A valid concern to be sure. I don’t think you’ll be seeing this doing many endurance rounds without some maniacally complex quick-change setup. It may be quicker to swap in a whole new swinging arm assembly and swap brake m/c than take the wheel off.

  • Ian

    It has a mosquito feeding tube/pricker coming out its nose.