Are huge spokes the answer to weak wheels?

In the pursuit of radically reduced unsprung weight, aftermarket wheels, whether they be magnesium or carbon, have one significant weakness — torsional loads can fracture their thin spokes and brittle materials. These Rotobox carbon fiber wheels adopt a radical hollow cylinder construction for their spokes, a design that should be capable of withstanding huge torsional forces while achieving the same lightness as thin, solid-spoked rivals.

Rotobox also claims that the increased air volume housed in the hollow spokes will lead to less variance in temperatures and increases tire compliance over rough surfaces. Disadvantages could be increased surface area creating susceptibility to crosswinds, but the company claims the reduced space between spokes is still more than enough to ameliorate this effect. There’s cost too of course, around €3,000 a wheel before you get into hubs and bearings.

Rotobox claims to be lighter than rivals, yet quotes an all-up weight for the wheel and heaviest aluminum hub as over 14lbs. BST claims 4.2-5.2lbs per wheels, so we assume Rotobox is measuring in a different way (ie with hubs and rotors in place) or is quoting an erroneous number.

Around for a year or two in prototype form, Rotobox wheels are now being used by Austrian endurace team YART on their R1 and will be arriving in WERA and AMA this season.

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  • nick2ny

    Ahh, wheels. By far the best and scariest place to save weight.

  • http://www.thisblueheaven.com Mark D

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe differences in torsional force resistance are exactly why steel tube frames are small-diameter, while aluminium alloy perimeter frames are big, wide, and hollow.

  • tomwito

    Wow I bet these are inexpensive?

    • tomwito

      Maybe I should have read it first. Thats about what I paid for my bike…

  • Steve

    I call BS. Increased air volume sounds fine, until you stuff it full of air at 28 to 42 PSI, then air has MASS of some significance. Also, thin shells are stiffer for the weight, but less forgiving. There is no yielding when damaaged or overstressed, they just snap.

    • ursus

      Wow, the spoke area looks pressurized. I didn’t expect that. Otherwise the wheels look very robust.

    • nick2ny

      A cubic foot at ATP weighs about 36g. We’re talking maybe 1/8th of a cubic foot. At 42psi, that’s be 108g*1/8th, so maybe 13g of air, and that’s going to be on the high side (since we assumed high volume and pressure). Is that a lot? You’re going to have to tell me.

  • dux

    These will be awesome, but not for street use…

  • http://www.postpixel.com.au mugget

    Why not for street use?

    CF wheels are not going to just fall apart if you put down a wheelie a little too hard. They are strong. Basically if you crash bad enough to break a CF wheel you would also have well and truly destroyed a regular wheel.

    I would have a pair of BSTs on my Gixxer like that. Lemme at ‘em!

    • dux

      Well if it can take impacts like a metal wheel, them I’m game!

  • Ben

    The cross wind issue I think could be a bad one.
    Riding with the carbon time trial wheels on my bicycle in high winds is scary.

  • joshua

    You bicycle probably doesn’t weigh 300lbs, and the rotating mass of a motorcycle wheel/tire/rotor combo is still going to be very high compared to a bicycle. But then again, going across a bridge in super high cross winds can be rather “interesting”. I would want to ride a bike with them before i dropped that kind of cash.

  • T Diver

    2 things. The model looks totally busted. I don’t know if she was rode hard and put away wet or what, but she has no place in a motorcycle ad. Second, these wheeles look nice but I wonder if they do anything for the average rider. It reminds me of formula 1 racing where the driver crashes the car and break off all the expensive CF crap at the rear of the car and proceeds to go faster than when the CF was intact. In other words, most people have a lot of room to improve before they need that extra edge CF rims provides. (At least on the street). Who cares though, they look nice.

  • RSassi

    Carbon Fiber is the best stuff on Earth.