Why blowjobs are bad for bikes

blowjobs

We’ve often criticized the US motorcycle industry culture which sees publications exist in subservience to the bike manufacturers. But, it occurred to me that we’d never actually explained why universal positivity could be a bad thing. I mean, if you’re trying to sell bikes, then guaranteed good reviews are what you want, right? If you’re just reading about bikes, you only want to read good news, right? Everyone loves a good blowie, don’t they?

This editorial is inspired by two comments that were left earlier this week. When I posted a link to our article on Ducati’s BS sales percentages on Facebook, Michael Debkowski, who I’m assuming isn’t a subscriber, responded:

“You’re a tool Wes…In a depressed economy, in an industry that mainly sells to people with extra money, I would have to think it’s difficult at best to come up with positive news about much of anything these days! What I don’t appreciate is some whiny brat raining on everyone’s parade. There’s so much negative news around the world and everybody’s economy in the tank…give it a rest!!! You were probably the kid in grade school that told everyone Santa wasn’t real to.”

Later that same day, us dropping 54 high-res images of the Triumph Daytona 675R prompted Brook to ask, “Is this an example of a ‘publication over eager to fellate [a] manufacturer so they can keep getting free meals and free bikes’? Just curious.”

The two comments together illustrate the need for this article.

Before we get started though, it probably makes sense to define a blowjob. In this context, we’re very much talking about a close and personal relationship between publications and manufacturers. A blowjob occurs when one decides to sacrifice their dignity, oral hygiene and what should be a monogamous relationship with their readers to get down on their knees and just do their dirty to best to make sure the other has a good time. We’re talking about unquestioning repetition of press releases, marketing speak regurgitated as editorial content and reviews which read more like a Penthouse Letter than they do a piece of honest journalism.

Blowjobs are a turnoff.

Now this might initially sound counterintuitive, but bear with me here. We’d certainly never argue that blowjobs should be a turnoff to the person receiving them and we’ve even heard that blowjobs can actually be a turn on to the people performing them. The problem is, most people don’t actually enjoy watching them happen.

When a publication fellates a manufacturer, readers can see it happen. When they do, they’re less likely to listen to the rest of that publication’s message, they’re less likely to respond positively to other stories in that publication, they’re less likely to read that publication at all, they’re less likely to trust motorcycle media in general and, as a result, they’re less likely to consume bike content at all.

Blowjobs have become so pervasive that younger riders and new initiates to riding are extremely skeptical of all motorcycle media and instead turn to their peers for advice and news. If motorcycle magazines are one of the key ways in which we, as an industry, communicate our enthusiasm, promote our products and educate new riders about our sport, then isn’t the reduced influence of motorcycle media a bad thing? That reduced influence is the direct result of blowjobs.

The boy who cried wolf.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf is a parable about a shepherd boy who tricks his friends into thinking a wolf is attacking his flock. He does this so often that, when a wolf really does attack his flock, no one believes him and the wolf is left free to eat all the sheep.

This can easily be adapted to blowjobs. If you run around town telling everyone that’ll listen that every bike is unreservedly awesome, then when you really mean that a bike is unreservedly awesome, you’ll suddenly find that no one listens to you anymore.

If the shepherd boy hadn’t tried tricking the townsfolk into thinking a wolf was attacking when it wasn’t, then they’d have listened when he really did need help. The problem is that we, as an industry, have acted like that shepherd boy and now the public has huge trust issues with all of us. Cross my heart and hope to die, I’ve never given a blowjob in my life, yet Brook thought she saw one when I said nice things about the 675R. If she thinks that about us, notorious outsiders that she pays to read, then what does she think about Sport Cyclist World News?! We, as an industry, need the townsfolk’s help, but they don’t believe us anymore!

Blowjobs are degrading.

As journalists working in the media world of 2011, we’re likely earning less money than our degrees from good colleges, vast intelligences and wonderful heads of hair merit. But, that’s not why we do what we do. We write about bikes because we love riding bikes. There’s also more to life than making shit tons of money. Stuff like self respect. How are you supposed to respect yourself if you have to resort to performing blowjobs to make ends meet? How are readers supposed to respect publications that make blowjobs their speciality?

Blowjobs also degrade the people that receive them. If you need to solicit blowjobs then what does that say about your ability to perform under less flattering circumstances? If you’ll only work with publications that’ll blow you, then what does that say about the objective merits of the product you’re selling?

If you’re spending tens of millions of dollars developing a product, should it really take a blowjob to communicate its benefits?

Remember when motorcycles were badass? We’re too young. (image via First Generation Motors)

Blowjobs limit return on investment.

Motorcycle manufacturers essentially fund moto media, not only buying ads, but also holding press launches at which journalists receive preferential access to motorcycles, maintaining press fleets to provide journalists with review samples and buying dinners at which the blowjob foreplay takes place. All that money represents an investment in an ability to communicate with and influence the general public.

If, for all the reasons described above and below, blowjobs have reduced the ability of a publication or review to influence that public, then is the money being well spent? If you fly 12 journalists halfway around the world to ride your new bike and say how awesome it is, then isn’t the return on that investment reduced if they’ve also said every other bike they’ve ever reviewed is equally awesome? If you prep and loan and possibly write-off a bike for a magazine to do a shootout with, and every bike in the shootout is declared to be the winner, then didn’t you waste your money?

Blowjobs create no incentive for building better bikes.

If the purpose of making a new motorcycle is to better compete with your rivals or better serve the demands of the public, then moto media is an invaluable tool for you to use in your pursuit of that purpose. Through it, you can identify what customers want, explore new market niches and evaluate the successes and failures of your rivals. But what’s there to learn if what you’re reading is dishonest? What motivation do you have to build a better bike if you’re going to be fellated regardless?

As a member of the public, one of the roles of the media is to communicate your interests and needs back to the companies that serve you. But blowjobs don’t do that. Blowjobs are actually a fairly inefficient means of communication.

Blowjobs create an unrealistic fantasy.

I told a friend I was writing this article and he sent me this in response, “I remember buying a 2004 ZX-6R and selling it a week later. I couldn’t believe how uncomfortable that piece of shit was and how no one had ever printed that it was an uncomfortable piece of shit.”

That does not sound like a satisfied customer to us. Reading about a world in which everything is rosy can create expectations that don’t translate to the cold, harsh light of the real world.

One of the roles of media should be directing readers towards the bikes that they’ll be happiest on. Happy customers are repeat customers. Think my friend bought another Kawasaki? He didn’t. Instead of the ZX-6R, he might have been happier on a Z1000 or a Ninja 650, but he wasn’t exposed to that message, all he was exposed to was a giant slurp.

The silver ring thing.

In response to Michael Debkowski’s Facebook comment, I wrote, “it’s not our job to paint a picture of puppy dogs and candy canes, it’s our job to report reality. Whether news is positive or negative is determined by what it is, not by our desire make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy.” And that’s our anti-blowjob commitment to you, our readers. In the interest of fostering a healthier relationship between the motorcycle media and the public, in the interest of creating a stronger motorcycle industry, in the interest of bringing a new generation into the motorcycle fold and selling more bikes, we resolve not to perform acts of fellatio. We encourage all other motorcycle media outlets to join us. Blowjob abstinence is the future.

If you read something positive on HFL, it’s because we believe in what we’re saying. If you read something negative, the same thing applies. Hopefully the positive is more positive because there is a negative.

In conclusion, I’d like to quote Jalopnik’s Matt Hardigree: “Hand jobs for everyone result in happy endings for no one.”

  • Sean Smith

    Sluuurrrrrpppp.

  • Thom

    Gorilla Journalism . EG Tell it like it is : or don’t tell it all all I say .

    I’ve said farewell to three automotive subscriptions and one M/C print subscription , as well as stopped viewing several websites precisely because I’ve had it up to my nose with all the Media Arsch Kussen thats going on these days

    Granted there has always been a fair amount of it in the past , but there was always the Stand Out magazine etc. who wasn’t afraid to call Dreck Dreck .

    Now I can count those who’s opinions I can trust on less than one hand .

    Nope Wes . Hold your ground and stand firm . There’s are many reasons why this site got my subscription $ and this is one of them .

    ( points given if you can guess which M/C magazine I dumped recently )

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Sport Cyclist World News?

    • DoctorNine

      Yeah… but guerrilla.
      (head asplodes)

      • Steven

        Why is gorilla incorrect? There’s nothing guerrilla about it.

  • Kentaro

    Great read.

    ps. “If you’re spending tens millions of dollars”

  • John

    As a former journalist, BRAVO!

  • AJ

    hell yeah fuck the haters

  • Frosty_spl

    This article is turning me on slightly.

    • dux

      Nothing’s more of a turn on to me, than fighting corruption. Keep doing God’s work, boys (and girls).

  • Brook

    LOL…but how are you going to do it (be objective)? I don’t mind reading brochures every now and then, just don’t disguise them as journalism. Perhaps galleries without words (because brochures only have pics and specs). Let us make our own conclusions and then comment below.

    Regarding SportCycleMotoWorld, I can recall only one article that struck me as extraordinary… “Blowing the Lid Off…”. The author (editor?) was let go because of pressure from the helmet manufacturers. And this brings us to a bigger problem we have as consumers…

    How are we supposed to make an intelligent purchase decision when we can’t (easily) demo any of the bikes we are looking at? Sitting on them for 10 minutes in a showroom floor while a salesman jabbers in your ear? Reading blowjobs by the press? I refuse to buy a bike I can’t demo…get some good quality alone time with the bike and let the bike do the talking.

    HFL is in a unique position since it seems (for the most part) that your paycheck isn’t tied to how satisfied the manufacturers feel afterwards. However, the Brits seem to have it down. Their moto mags (and Top Gear) have it all over the US mags. I’m willing to pay $12 per issue for their content because the info matters to the everyday rider, not just prospective buyers. Their reviews are critical, they actually give out 2 stars to products they dislike (not 4.5 stars).

    Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble Wes, but I’m a male, not a female.

    • http://worldof2.com/ jpenney

      Manufacturers need more demo units! Ducati had a demo fleet at Heartland Park race track when AMA Superbike was last there. The sign up was packed and some bikes (848 in particular) had no open spots buy the time we got there.

      I feel fortunate that there are a few dealers in the area that are great about test rides. They try to keep a demo of all the models on hand and I return the love with a bunch of repeat business.

      I LOVE that HFL is so opinionated. I may disagree, but I know WHY I disagree. I don’t think I could name one author in any of the bike mags. There’s no relationship and no frame of reference to really process the reviews into meaningful information.

      • Brook

        That’s why I own a Ducati and a Buell. Love at first (demo) ride.

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          Buell’s demo trackdays were great. They’d rent out an entire trackday, turn up in a truck, invite a bunch of people to ride their bikes, subsidize (make cheaper, not fully cover) the day for everyone bringing their bikes and offer them rides on Buells too. I’m amazed every manufacturer doesn’t do that.

          They weren’t even SoCal snobs, we did a trackday with them at NJMP.

          • Devin

            That’s one thing that Harley does right. They have HUGE demo days where I am at. Basically the whole Harley line-up is available for you to ride, they have crews go out and sweep the dirt out of all the corners on the route and provide a fantastic free BBQ when you get back. You can go on multiple rides to check out different bikes and the local Harley Owner’s Group (HOG’s) are there to welcome you and tell you all about the group rides they go on.

            All it takes is one set of rides and a tractor trailer going to all the dealers – very surprised no one else does this. They sell a lot bikes that week.

            • Kirill

              Harley had the best demo setup the last time I went to the Long Beach bike show. Unlike everyone else, who made you ride in formation with a guy leading the pack and a guy in the back, they let you get on a bike (and they had the entire lineup there), told you to turn at the appropriate signs, and go nuts. It was great and made me want an XR1200.

          • Robert

            Speaking as the guy who ran Buell Inside Pass, I would love to see more of that happen – the key to that sort of program is dealer participation. Those track days sold bikes, were a huge risk, and were expensive. But they sold bikes and the Buell staff was great to work with.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler
      • Brook

        Yes…that’s it. Apparently Dexter doesn’t swallow.

    • Ducky

      Even with the Brit publications there are hits and misses. The hits are the ones that include page after page of used bike info, telling you which ones are good value, which ones to avoid, which ones cost a lot to maintain, which had the most problem, etc. and provide lots of gear reviews.

      Then there are magazines which shows naked women with bikes, and a line or two about how they’ve got great jobs. So again, hit or miss.

      But I hope you’ve gotten the blow by blow on how HFL does not fellate manufacturers =D

  • http://www.muthalovin.com the_doctor

    Alright Wes and Grant, I finally, FINALLY decided to subscribe. This very “post” sold me on the $1.99USD cost.

    You kids, and everyone at the HFL crew work for something you love, and you love something you do.

    I endorse Hell For Leather.

    Also, I do not feel the need for a BJ. Thanks guys.

  • Peter88

    All media suffers from the blowjob syndrome. From the motorcycle mags to CNN to FoxNews. Journalism and journalists have become four letter words. I don’t trust any of ‘em. Mr. Siler, we probably would not like each other in the real world, but when it comes to bikes, I will pay for your writings and listen to what you have to say. Thanks and keep up the integrity.

    • http://www.cdavisdesigns.com Chris Davis

      You’re right, it’s the same everywhere. It’s all about access and advertising. In the general news media, once they were labeled as liberal, they got so defensive all they would do is show both sides of the story as if each had equal merit. I have no problem saying that I do get most of my news from The Daily Show. There and from a couple of kooks with a website that sounds more like they’re into S&M than motorcycle news.

  • http://twitter.com/JamesLeeFoley# J Foley

    Spot on, the only think I’d add is that young people can only turn to their friends when they have some that ride. I didn’t have any my age when I started riding, so I didn’t have anyone to tell me the reviews I was reading were inflated.

    Kudos to you for being honest and helpful.

  • Kyle

    Roadhead on a bike… not really possible, nor safe

    • http://www.muthalovin.com the_doctor

      lulz

    • dux

      That was my first thought too

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      I dunno, if you have the skill to pull it off, then you probably have the skill to do so safely.

  • http://plugbike.com/ skadamo

    Glad you wrote this. Good to hear you stance. Never thought I would get a promise like that from moto media. Now I can read and not just look at the pics.

    No more “choose your fav color” shootout results.

  • ontheroad

    Best quotable: “Blowjobs are actually a fairly inefficient means of communication.”

    I see your choice of verbs did in fact provoke a few disgruntled responses. Cheers to you for running with it. I agree, across the board. Motojournalism is dead; long live motojournalism!

  • Steve

    We have all seen it, but here is an example. A different online motorcycle magazine, which I once paid a subscription for, had their reviews helpfully organized my manufacturer and year, so you could easily find and read reviews for consecutive model years of the same model. In the review year X of a certain model they said nothing but wonderful things about the model. In the next years review of the same model they commented on how the company had fixed problems A, B, and C. My immediate though was “if those are problems, why were they not mentioned in the prior year review?”

    I did not review my subscription.

  • Erik

    I’m a long time moto nut who used to buy every mainstream bike magazine every month without fail, since about 1968. It was ever thus, those magazines never ever tested a bad bike. More recently all the mags that were left provided wonderful descriptions about the manufacturer’s new model launches, first class junkets to exotic locations, moto GP circuit track days for new sport bikes, freeby gear, luxury hotels, the wild parties, the other journo from the rival magazine wadding a test bike….etc. etc.. As far as I was concerned those writers were actually telling the world, “We are whores and proud of it, so dear readers, caveat emptor when you read our words”. But I did not buy those magazines seeking objective road tests, I wanted the news, technical information about new models and products, event coverage, features, I wanted my vicarious bike fix when there was two feet of snow in my drive, all of which I now get daily from the internet (including a subscription to HFL) with the bonus of no giant stack of magazines cluttering up the house. Better living through technology!

  • T Diver

    This seems counter-intuitive (sorry i can’t spell), but I would not want to come to HFL for blowjobs. The dude should go to happynews.com

  • DoctorNine

    You know, I read this, and I’m all about a really good analogy. And basically, fuck this Michael Debkowski person. But you lost me when you went out on a limb with the ‘nobody enjoys watching a good blowjob’ bit. Now admittedly, watching is not as nice as a personally delivered midnight special, but I have definitely seen some well managed artistry, of which I was not the index recipient, which made me want to stand up and applaud. So no. Can’t go there with you. Move to the next analogy.

    And otherwise, carry on, as you were, etc.

  • Tony

    The thing that is so ridiculous is bike magazine tests is when some does go wrong during the test, it’s always the ‘we made all a call to the advertiser, I mean manufacturer and it turns out we go a pre-production model that a tampon stuffed into it’s airbox. They assured us the production versions will have no such tampon.” WTF, a magazine sends a bike to a publication with some bullshit problem? I used to read BMX magazines in the ’80s and they did the same thing during tests.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Actually, that’s a fairly normal thing. The bikes manufacturers have on launches are often pre-production, so they can start getting press in time for production to start and sales to begin. Pre-production does equal a potential for quality control problems as some of the parts will be one-offs or small runs not made to production standards.

      Case in point would be the RSV4 pistons. They popped on the launch and Aprilia bought back all the engines it’d already sold just in case. No biggie, just the normal course of teething problems with new engines/bikes/production lines etc.

      Test bikes also live pretty hard lives, getting caned by people with egos larger than their talent levels who don’t have to worry about repairs or service. Hopefully the manufacturers check bikes over before every loan, but that’s sometimes just not the case. I can’t rag on a bike having a slipping clutch because the guy who had it before me didn’t know how to launch it at a drag strip.

      • Tony

        Yeah, but still, it happens for too often from tires, to steering dampers, clutches, etc that I call bullshit on it. I work in an industry where we send stuff out to magazine for editorial coverage, and I can assure you a lot of time and care is done before the stuff gets sent out especially if other magazine have already pulled the same products.

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          I understand what you’re saying. I saw a lot of the same thing when I reviewed cars and had a new product literally every couple of days (Oh, to work in an industry that’s professional, efficient and organized).

          With a short loan, your exposure to the product is just somewhat limited.

          That’s not to say that reliability and quality aren’t legitimate topics for reporting on, but I look more to owners forums and places like that to originate the topic.

          • Tony

            Are you nuts? I work in fashion, for an Italian company for that matter. American Magazines (non matter what industry/product cateogory) = Yellow journalism.

      • Kurt

        I think it was actually crankshafts.

  • CG

    A kajillion years ago, R&T ran a gushing review of the Rover 2000. They failed to mention a minor point: The rate of disintegration. Which means, at the age of 15, I had to learn to read between the lines. Re: mc’s: If they mention a bit of vibration in the pegs or bars, that means a LOT of vibration. The seat is a little tough after 100 miles, essentially unrideable. Bemusingly, Bike, a magazine I pay a lot for, in their review of the new ZX10, downgraded the S1000R below the CBR1000. Too much love for the BMW last year? Hmmm. Interesting, to coin a phase.

  • Adam

    Well said, keep up the high quality reporting and maintain your self-respect. Good on you.

  • mcfaite

    A number of folks have mentioned one of the biggest challenges – it’s really difficult to test ride a new bike. So we’re basically buying with seriously imperfect information, and it’s crucial to have reviewers, who we come to know and trust, help us fill in some of those blanks. Thanks, HFL.

  • JMS

    This is what I love about HFL. This is why I subscribed.

    Now if only we could get this level of honesty in other kinds of journalism…

  • Tim

    I buy Bike and Superbike, both UK mags, and love the lack of bullshit. Costs an arm and a leg here in the states, sadly. Keep up the fight (and the integrity) Wes.

    • Miles Prower

      I read Bike and RiDE. US residents can subscribe through Bauer Media at GreatMagazines.co.uk.

      Subscription is expensive, but like many UK hobbyist magazines, there’s a serious amount of editorial — literally 10x the content you see in Sport Cyclist World News.

  • http://www.firstgenerationmotors.blogspot.com Emmet

    Just cancelled my subscription to Sport Cyclist World News. Hell for Leather IMO is the PBS of motorcycle journalism. When will we see phone banks and coffee mugs for $50?

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      I’m angling for tote bags.

      • Eric

        Promise you won’t have garish logos plastered all over the bag and I’m in.

        Garish colors I’m cool with.

      • Gregory

        I want a Hell For Leather t-shirt. Goat-head skull all the way.

        I have a few Aerostich t-shirts. Amusing, in an “I’m a square” or “I’m an elderly, conservative (riding style) man” sort of way.

        My sister– somewhat unknowing in the ways of motorcycles– got me a boutique Ducati t-shirt from the boutique Ducati store in Manhattan. It’s the thought that counts.

        So where’s my Hell For Leather t-shirt? Where’s my Hell For Leather sticker for my milkcrate?

        -gceaves
        Portland, OR
        2008 KLR 650 w. milkcrate

        • ontheroad

          +1 I want to see sheepshead stickers on the ragged milkcrates and saddlebags of random adventure bikes.

          Send this man some stickers and demand cool photos in return.

  • ike6116

    Motorcycle journalism may suck but ill be damned if ill get on board with this misusage of one of the greatest words the english language has to offer in “blowjob”

  • Corey

    your magazine has a nice voice and a unique perspective. But you beat the life out of the BJ metaphor. Must be what your pratty readership wants. Slurp.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate BeastIncarnate

    Much as I want to bust out the pompoms and cheer, I find the need to write this article depressing. How can you be a reader and not already understand HFLs stance on this? How can you WANT all of your information to be marketing spin? It’s pathetic.

    That Brook saw your praise of the 675R as potential blowjobbery in spite of the long history you have with Triumph was silly. Clearly, the ability to read and the ability to comprehend do not always go hand in hand.

    I know you’ll keep up the good work.

  • http://www.ninja250blog.com R.Sallee

    1) The photoshopped Honda logo is why manufacturers won’t talk to you guys.

    2) You just earned yourself a whole bunch of SEO you don’t want.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      1) Honda would treat us like children regardless.

      2. I seriously doubt we can compete on SEO for a search term as popular as “blowjob.”

    • http://pinkyracer.com pinkyracer

      I dunno. If I (were a guy and) went looking for “blowjobs, motorcycles” I’d be pretty stoked to discover this gem (HfL). ;-)

  • GuyP

    I’m still reeling from lovely female asses being described as ‘manure spreaders’ in that other comment-farm story you posted, I wasn’t ready for the de-sexualisation of blowjobs too, damn you

    • http://www.lgdm.fr stempere

      Can’t believe i would ever agree with “Blowjob abstinence is the future.”… only on HFL i guess.

      Laughed reading the article, and that comment. Almost cheers me up for beeing at work on a sunny saturday instead of riding…
      Oh and the “Deep Throat” ad is awesome, new background on the workstation.

  • Devin

    “Blowjobs have become so pervasive that younger riders and new initiates to riding are extremely skeptical of all motorcycle media and instead turn to their peers for advice and news.” This.

    And when you don’t have all that many friends that ride, it’s a pain to essentially be flying blind on a purchase.

    • JonB

      Agreed. Purchasing your first motorcycle—is more often than not—a totally blind experience based off of Top Gun and some dudes you saw at Starbucks.

      • mcfaite

        And not even just your first bike. Most of my friends who ride have some kind of nice bike, but none of them are new, or even recently released.

  • douglas

    I think we have all missed the most troubling thing in this editorial santa clause is DEAD say it ain’t so Wes.

    • Core

      Easter bunny is dead as well. Might as well just get it all out at once. PURGE~!

  • Toby

    What is that, 30 positive comments? Looks like this motojournalist has figured out that when it comes to blowjobs, receiving is better than giving after all.

    Oh, and props, Wes. Make it 31 ;)

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      That’s gotta be a new record in less than 24 hours. Boy am I sore though.

  • Core

    “In the interest of fostering a healthier relationship between the motorcycle media and the public, in the interest of creating a stronger motorcycle industry, in the interest of bringing a new generation into the motorcycle fold and selling more bikes, we resolve not to perform acts of fellatio. We encourage all other motorcycle media outlets to join us. Blowjob abstinence is the future.

    If you read something positive on HFL, it’s because we believe in what we’re saying. If you read something negative, the same thing applies. Hopefully the positive is more positive because there is a negative.”

    @Wes

    The only thing your doing, is making me trust HFLMagazine, nothing else… that’s why I actually decided to pay currency to your publication. Because I like what you guys bring to the table.
    That’s maybe something you can bank on from others as well? separate you from other motorcycle publications..

  • Jeff

    I subscribed to HFL because it had evolved beyond what all the other motorcycle rags had become. Now you guys are constantly looking back and comparing yourself to the industry you had successfully separated yourself from. You’ve broken free, let go of the past and move on.

    This is like having a new girlfriend who can’t stop talking about your old girlfriend. I’m sorry, this is getting a little boring.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      I understand what you’re saying, but let me explain the motivation.

      We’ve made an outstanding publication that’s not only free to be honest, but that features higher quality writing and photography than any of the moto mags, that’s timely, genuinely relevant and just plain fun to be a part of.

      But, the one thing holding us back is that the manufacturers (with a few notable exceptions like MV Agusta and Aprilia) won’t give us access to their motorcycles. There’s no reason for this. We have the readership numbers (in a demographic no other bike publication reaches), we have the quality, we communicate ourselves to the manufacturers in a professional way. But they cut us out. I’m sure you can see the frustration in that. They’re in our way.

      • Ilya

        Wes, I think you’ve got a good piece of advice here: don’t look back. There are some manufacturers who wants to reach new audience and there are others who don’t. Why bother?

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          But we’re failing to fully serve our readers if we’re unable to feature the motorcycles they’re interested in. It’s not about us and it’s not about some old, inept farts in marketing departments, it’s about the readers and they want to read about bikes like the Daytona 675R.

          Of course, the benefit of having a young, intelligent readership is that they want to read about bikes like Urals too. Maybe I need to take a sidecar on a solo exploration of Death Valley once I get to California next month…

          • Gregory

            Are you coming to California?

            I’ll meet you at the lowest point in the US, with a bottle of Oregon gin as a gift. It’ll only take me ~20+ hours to get there. A mere trifle…

            -gceaves
            Portland, OR
            2008 KLR 650 w. milkcrate

            • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

              Moving there first week of may :)

      • Jeff

        Oops, I’m sorry. I thought you were writing articles for your readers. I didn’t realize you were writing them for the manufacturers.

        Snarkiness aside, is there some other way your readership can help? Could you develop an on-line petition we all could sign to request manufacturers include you guys?

        Help us speak directly to the manufacturers and maybe that might make a difference. You say they are alot of us, help us make some noise.

        • mcfaite

          That suggestion about in some way documenting your readers’ collective desire to see HFL get access to bikes, and to also say that we’re not reading domestic moto magazines anymore, and pass that on to manufacturers is a good idea.

          • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

            Becoming the first niche publication of any kind to successfully implement a subscription model which costs MORE than the print mags isn’t enough of a petition?!

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          Oh snap, did I just get served?!

          In all seriousness, we also owe it to our readers to be responsible. It works both ways. We should report if a bike is an unreliable POS, but we shouldn’t report that a bike is an unreliable POS when it’s not.

          • Ilya

            Wes, I don’t feel like all you want is to become one of the ten media invited to somebody’s press-launch.
            I think what you really want is to become the magazine of choice for the new generation of motorcycling public.
            Get all these people on board. And manufacturers – may be not tomorrow, but in a year, or two, or three – will be begging you to say something about their new (or “new”) creations.

            • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

              Well that’s the idea, but it’d be easier if we could ride a bike or two.

              • Ilya

                “Easier”? You, Wes Siler, said the word “easier”?

  • Patrick

    Were do test bike “ringers” fall into all this?
    When you read a line in a mag like “This particular bike seemed to make less power on the butt dyno than I remember from the launch” Now I may be a little jaded, but I read that as the production bike is neutered. Is this the case? Am I jaded? Or do the bikes at the launch have full power programs and better suspension components in order to create the glowing first impressions?

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      I’m reminded of this article:

      http://jalopnik.com/#!5760248/how-ferrari-spins

      I don’t know that it’s so much a case of ringers, but when you go on a Japanese sportbike launch, you have a team of engineers (who helped design the bike) setting it up specifically for you, you’re likely running fancier tires than stock, atypical suspension adjustments like ride height shims and whatnot are made, it’s just a fairly unrealistic situation.

      • Ilya

        Wes, the thing is that nobody is buying press-launch bikes. Your reader are buying regular bikes from regular dealerships. What does this tell you?

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          Ha, that’s what I’m saying! The products aren’t necessarily juiced, but you’re experiencing them in the best possible light.

          • Ilya

            Exactly. The worst possible nightmare for any manufacturer is when some “idiot” journalist gets his hand on the serial bike purchased from regular dealership, ride it, and then publish a review in popular source.
            Be this “idiot”!

            • Gregory

              Could you buy sold-at-dealers models (let’s say, USD ~$20’000 per bike) solely for review purposes? You buy a bike. Huge outlay. Big risk. Review it. Then sell it on, say, Craig’s List or some similar site. Perhaps you’d get back ~$16’000 (is that the rough true depreciation rate for bikes ?). So… assuming the above figures are correct or even accurate… is $4’000 worth the cost of an “honest” review?

              Basically, could you make up that cost in advertiser revenue + subscriber fees?

              -gceaves
              Portland, OR
              2008 KLR 650 w. milkcrate

              • Kirill

                Buying a product for review purposes has been done, at least on the car side. Edmunds InsideLine buys all their long-term vehicles, for example, but its not very cost effective and they probably lose money on it (fortunately for them, edmunds.com is basically a money printing operation). Given that Wes’ business model is basically subscriber fees minus bandwidth bill equals profit, I doubt he can afford to eat a few grand in depreciation, taxes, and DMV fees in exchange for a few thousand pageviews. I certainly wouldn’t be taking that punt if it was my business, the risk-reward ratio just isn’t favorable. He’s much better off using his reader base to convince the PR types of the respective bike makers that he’s worth their time and money.

            • Devin

              HFL bike reviews courtesy of dealer demo days. Ha!

  • Gene

    I read the British mags like Performance Bike and Superbike, and they have a totally different view than American mags. If something’s a steaming pile of dog-poo, they actually tend to say so.

    I think this is because bikes are “recreation” to Americans, and basic transportation in England.

    And yet another is, what’s up with the free magazines? I stopped my sub to Motorcyclist and another “Sport Cyclist World News” rag 15 months ago, yet I still get magazines in the mail. Is this so they can falsely inflate their readership numbers?

    I hear this happening to a lot of other people on the bike forums.

  • Robert

    Why not borrow readers bikes? What could possibly go wrong?

    • http://www.thisblueheaven.com Mark D

      “Glad to hear you’ll be walking in 6-8 weeks, Wes. I guess I feel somewhat responsible the chain on my bike snapped at 95 and sent you flying over a cliff. I mean, I never cleaned or lubed it once, so…sorry bro!”

    • Kirill

      There’s this insurance thing, you may have heard of it

  • http://www.postpixel.com.au mugget

    I definitely appreciate your anit-blowjob commitment.

  • Isaac

    I am in tears of laughter! Bravo on this article. The first paragraph after the one about the 54 hi-res images of the 675R was just pure brilliance!

    Hey any chance of a ride review of that sexy machine the 675R?

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Well Triumph told us they couldn’t invite us on the launch because:

      a) we’re a cruiser magazine

      b) we’re irrelevant next to publications like Rider and Motorcycle Daily.

      Maybe they’ll let me borrow one, but the string of obscenities that came out of my mouth after being told the above probably reduced the chances of that.

      • http://www.thisblueheaven.com Mark D

        A Cruiser magazine? Man, they really DO hate you guys!

  • http://www.faster-faster.com fasterfaster

    I hate to nitpick your diction but maligning the noble BJ is really uncalled for when you’re really just angry at prostitution. It’s not the act; it’s the terms.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Actually, “blowjob” is a technical term used in the journalism trade, so I feel the usage is correct.

      Example: “Did you see Anderson Cooper give President Obama a total blowjob in that interview?”

      • FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

        I lol’d.
        It’s funny ‘cos AC is gay.

        Pre-welcome to the best coast.

  • contender

    HFL is anti BJ? I’m now less excited about the West Coast move and the thought of HFL parties.

    Fantastic article.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

    This industry is full of cocksuckers. They’re just too scared to put a big hairy HFL cock in their mouth.

  • Robert

    Wes – next time you find yourself planning a trip to Spirit Lake Iowa, let me know. I’ll arrange for you to watch a Victory get built and you can ride it from the end of the assembly line to Minneapolis, meet the designer and engineers and then.

    I’ll even let you buy me dinner.

    Rp @ Victory

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      We’re always looking for good stories Robert and we’d love to receive our first communication from Victory.

      Send us press releases when you’ve got new models or important news and let us know if you’ve got an angle on a story you think would be appropriate for our readers or someone you’d like to see interviewed. You know how to get ahold of us.

      • Robert

        Ok – nothing new ’till the August dealer meeting, but have a great story about a pancreatic cancer survivor knocking out 43,300+ miles in one year (representing the number of patients diagnosed every year)riding a Victory in all 50 states all while enduring chemotherapy on the road.

        http://www.road2acure.org

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          Cool, well Pancreatic Cancer isn’t a terribly sexy story for readers in their 20s and 30s. Let’s do something with your design department. Maybe we can interview Victory’s head designer or do something visual with existing material.

          For instance it might be neat to look back at the design process of the Vision, maybe look at the sketches and the designs that were thrown out or altered and through that arrive at some understanding of why the Vision looks so distinctive.

          • Robert

            Chis was diagnosed at about 35. It’s usually a death sentence. His is a great story.

            When you get to MN, I’ll seet you up with Brew, Song, Bracy, Fisher et all. Designing for reality (production, costs, manufacturing, legal) is much more daunting and difficult than designing for pure moto art sake. These guys are good at what they do. They don’t get to make all the decision – in a big company nobody does, but in under a decade this team has delivered solid products – but perhaps not for those in their 20′s or 30′s!

            • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

              Well, hopefully there’ll be an opportunity to meaningfully cover Victory before August or before we happen to find ourselves in Minnesota.

              • Robert

                We can do it!

  • Jeff

    “..for readers in their 20s and 30s”, crap, I’m 52. Sorry to blow your demographics. You’re not carding at the door, so I suspect a few of us old timers have snuck in.

  • Mihovil Anic

    Couldn’t agree more!!!!