Would you pay $37k for this motorcycle?

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By now, you’ve seen the Motus MST. An American-designed, American-made sports tourer, it’s powered by a longitudinal V4 that’s basically half a Corvette LS7 motor shrunk down to 1,650cc. The big question has been how much is a small production run of very high-end motorcycles made here in the States with a bespoke motor going to cost? The answer begs another question. Would you pay that much for this motorcycle?

No motorcycle exists in a vacuum. Even a piece of hand-made American exotica must compete for buyer’s hearts and minds with other, similarly capable bikes. Because Motus have chosen to peg their USP to function instead of simply looks or rarity like, say, a boutique chopper maker, its ability needs to be compared to that of other bikes created to fulfill a similar purpose.

A larger version of this spreadsheet, including more bikes, is in the gallery below.

As a high-end sports tourer with an emphasis on performance over luxury, arranging a competitive set casts a wide net. The six-cylinder BMW K1600GT is an obvious point of comparison — big motor, lots of handling, long distance — but the latest generation of performance ADV bikes essentially does the same job the Motus aims to do —distance plus performance — while less sporty bikes like the Honda ST1300 stake claims on that territory too.

In fact, Sean noticed that if you swap “Motus” for “ST1300” in Honda’s marketing copy, you get a pretty good description of what the American bike is trying to do. Here’s some fun with copy and paste:

“Sport-touring bikes have to do double-duty, and do both well. The Motus MST is proof that if you start out with the world’s ultimate touring bike and the world’s best sportbikes, you can create something magical. One part long-distance hauler, one part canyon-carving ace, the MST combines Gold Wing-inspired luxury with Corvette-derived performance. Its wind-tunnel-honed bodywork and hard saddlebags perfectly complement a powerful V-4 engine, chain drive and a race-bred chassis. The result? A bike that’s equally at home swallowing up miles of blacktop as it is dicing through the twistiest of alpine passes. And all without ever breaking a sweat.”

But, as an expensive motorcycle, Motus isn’t just going to be appealing to people that like having their fun a long way from home, but don’t like sore asses. A big part of the bike’s appeal is going to be its rarity and ability to pull the heart strings of rich petrolheads. Which is essentially what the EBR 1190RS sets out to do. Sure, one’s for road riding and one’s for winning races out of the box, but both want you to pay a premium to wave a gasoline-soaked flag.


Which all leads us back to that question. Do rarity, a Corvette motor and performance parity with some of the fastest bikes out there add up to a bike that’s worth $31,000 to $37,000? Would you pay that much for the motorcycle you see here? Do you think other people will?

  • Mr.Performance

    For 37 grand you could buy a few bikes and still have money for some extra gear and upgrades or just blow the rest on a nice journey.

  • ike6116


    • pahoo


      • Matt

        Y’know, those Givi sidecases are included. Free.

  • Ben NYC


  • Groomez


  • Charlie


  • doublet

    That seems wayyyyy too practical for anybody to pay $37 big ones for. Don’t they see the cognitive dissonance that’s going to run them aground?

    Why buy that when you can save 9 G’s and still scoop this gem up!?!

    • David

      I’ve decided I like that build. A lot.

    • tbowdre

      serious love for the kawasaki H2

  • http://rider49er.blogspot.com Mark D [EX500]

    If I was the kind of crazy rich asshole who would pay $37k for a motorcycle? Sure, why not. I mean, these are people who will spend $800 on a bottle of wine. The Motus is a little homely, but that motor sounds great.

    • BMW11GS

      Why asshole? Why does rich get thrown around in a derogatory manner all the time now a days? Freedom baby, it’s for all levels of income.

      • http://rider49er.blogspot.com Mark D [EX500]

        No disrespect, just a figure of speech. I’m working hard to be the type of guy who goes to buy $800 bottles of wine on a $40k motorcycle ;)

        • BMW11GS

          hahah no, I am not in that bracket at all either! I guess I am just sensitive because one day I would like the enjoy the fruit of my labor and be considered an all around okay guy as well. I think it’s possible

  • RWerksman

    Negative ghostrider.

    • Kevin

      The pattern is full.

  • http://lightsoutknivesout.tumblr.com/ Scott Pargett

    Don’t people pay this much for OC choppers or other useless shit? If so why wouldn’t be there enough of a market of those people who have no perspective on value to support their boutique operation?

    Jay Leno will buy at least one.

  • http://www.TroyRank.com Troy R

    This bike is if you have american guilt, a sick bike made in the US, nevermind that pricepoint.

    I hope that real-world they bring the price down over time with volume.

  • Nathaniel Salzman

    Considering the ST1300 is also a V4 and frankly looks almost identical, the Honda looks like the absolute bargain of the bunch.

    • Coreyvwc

      Except for the fact that the MST’s power to weight ratio is almost 3 times higher than the ST1300…

  • 80-watt Hamster

    If I had the sort of income where spending $30K+ wasn’t a big deal, and liked the test ride… Maybe.

    The pitch seems to be aimed at well-heeled iconoclastic types who like motorcycles, and there just may be enough of those to keep the operation going until they can bring costs to within the realm of mere mortals.

  • Myles

    30k is the average purchase price of a new car in The States. This is a way better vehicle than any car.

    So why not? I’d much rather have an econo car + this than an M3 or some other naziwagon. People don’t think it’s strange to spend 100k on a 911.

    • Ax

      People who don’t have $100k to spend on a toy think it’s pretty strange. ;)

      • Myles

        Oh yeah, for sure. I’m definitely not in that tax bracket.

  • muckluck

    I think you can get forclosed homes for that price… If they can sell them great. No I would not buy one.

  • JT Nesbitt

    I have seen the Motus in person, and ridden it round the block. It is one of those machines that does not photograph well, like my Ferrari 456 GT, it truly must be experienced in the metal to appreciate how handsome it is. The sculptural narrowly waisted tank to seat transition only really makes an appearance when you are directly overhead, or seated on it.
    As you walk around the bike, visually exploring it, a certain unexpected cohesion emerges, and I found myself delighted, and captivated. I liked it ALOT more than I thought I would.
    The very brief ride that I had reinforced the feeling of a big, tough, and smart motorcycle. Sort of a two wheeled version of the 456GT, An accurate analogy, and just as the explosion of high end GT class of cars that began in the 1990′s, and is still going strong today, the Motus makes sense to me.
    It is really not like the bikes that you are comparing it with in the feature, any more than an Aston Martin V8 Vantage could be compared to a Mazda MX5…One is an inexpensive sports car, one is a high end Grand Tourer. So the real question is, what are the other motorcycles that are comparable?
    I think that the criteria should be:
    #1 Exclusive and handmade
    #2 Flexible and comfortable
    #3 Integrated and reasonable storage space
    #4 Extremely powerful and responsive
    For the life of me, I cant think of another GT-class motorcycle that checks all of the above. — JT

    • Peter88


    • Thom


      Two thumbs up on your appraisal . Had you asked me a month ago whether or not I’d pay this much money for the Motus I’d of given an adamant Hell No !

      But after doing some careful research . Looking into the overall business strategy of the company , the time and effort put into the bike , both engineering and aesthetic wise , the people involved , as well as reading the riding impressions from a few folks who’s opinions I find relatively reliable ?

      Well I’d have to ride it first to be sure , but I’m guessing my answer will be ( once the Columbia MO dealer takes delivery and has one to try out ) A resounding Hell Yes !

      The Buell for this amount of $$$ . Sweet bike but WTH would I do with it on a daily basis ? The Motus ? Hell a daily driver , long distance tourer , bar bike ( blow your friends minds trying to figure out WTH you’re riding ) anything short of dirt and the Motus is out the garage and on the road !

      BTW Another two thumbs up for the 456 . The last of the truly ‘ beautiful ‘ Ferraris IMHO . I’ve always been a fan of the 2+2′s from Maranello . Had a 365GTC/4 for years myself .If’n I ever have another ‘ Mid Life Crisis ‘ I may have to fix it with a 456 myself ;-)

    • http://mansgottado.tumblr.com/ Andy Gregory

      I’ve seen it in person too, and I wasn’t nearly as impressed. Looks like an old man’s sport-tourer (which is realistically what it will be). The motor is the obvious star here, and that’s great, but the tank shape and body work is all limp for me. For 31-37 G’s I want to be hard.

      • contender

        Agree. I thought it looked like a Katana crossed with a Ducati ST4. Very interesting for the motor/sound, but that’s about it.

        • Allan

          Also agree. A unique motor but little else. I was terribly disappointed when I saw it in the flesh. From the front, not bad. The rear is past-tense; dated by a good ten years. But the frame and swing arm are the worst offenders. That being said I would pay 25k for the R version – certainly not more.

    • Ben

      Multistrada 1200S

      accept for the #1 sort of.

  • Peter88

    I would buy this and park it next to my CVO Street Glide. Then every morning I would choose based on how I feel that day. But seriously, Myles said it best. Instead of some high-end cage buy this and a lightly used F150.

  • http://www.racetrackstyle.com Racetrack Style

    which of the bikes listed are still collectible after 100k miles and/or 15 years?

    a prospective BMW 1600 buyer is capable of buying the Motus; and he/she would consider the Motus’ character being worth the extra 10k, possibly more than the rarity.

    I wonder how close Motus could get to a $25,500 price tag?

    • Roman

      Also too, Motus is 150 lbs lighter than the K1600.

      • http://www.racetrackstyle.com Racetrack Style

        That’s a lot. Good point

      • TuffGong

        Service intervals are apparently quite lengthy with no valve adjustment needed(ever)….

  • http://twitter.com/metabomber Jesse

    I wouldn’t, but I’m sure there others that certainly would. Props to Motus if they can keep the lights on with these.

  • FiveG

    I’ll stick with my ’07 FJR, and I still have $25K left to use on other toys.

  • RT Moto

    Hell no… Thing is hideous. I’d have to ride around wearing a paper bag over my helmet for putting down that much green and riding off on an ugly bike.

  • Penguin

    The reason I love bikes and the reason I ride is because bikes are no bullshit zones. Who gives a damn about your 60k Porsche when the riders skill and a 6k CBR600 can show you tail lights with ease. That’s why things like this do absolutly nothing for me, why spend thousands on a Ducati Desmo when a RSV4 / S1000 can probably do it better? If you are going to spend a premium on a what is pretty much a show off piece and then feed people a line about “look at the craftsmanship” then you might as well just go the whole hog and become a chrome pirate, SSDD.

  • motomoto

    I don’t see half a big block, I see a V4 Guzzi and that alone would probably get me to spend the cash if I had it to spend.

    As someone who cannot afford a 37K motorcycle, I can’t really say if I would pay that much for one. I do love the idea of it though and think the Motus crew did a great job with the bike as a whole. I really do think it’s the best looking sport touring bike out there (well, not yet but you know what I mean).

    In the dreamland that I have 37K to spend on this bike probably means I’ve already scooped up some of the other desirable bikes on my dream list.

    • Gene

      “I see a V4 Guzzi” Bingo. That explains why I really want it, even though I can’t afford it. I think the motor & frame look awesome, but the fairing lets the whole thing down. I’d probably bring it home, rip the fairing off and put a round headlight on it.

      The fairing needs more straight edges to match the lines of the frame & engine. At the moment, it looks like the designer’s clay model sagged overnight.

  • http://www.muthalovin.com the_doctor

    At gunpoint, I would choose this over the equivalent priced chopper from any handful of specialty shops.

    That said, no, I would take 2 ZX14s and a CBR250R.

  • Gene

    No… I DIDN’T see the Motus! It was supposed to be at Bike Week, but I didn’t see it there. It wasn’t at the Ocean Center bike show, nor was it at the track. Did anybody else see it?

    • http://mansgottado.tumblr.com/ Andy Gregory

      Saw it/sat on it at Laguna Seca MotoGP last year…

    • JTB

      It was at the BMW dealership like it said on the website.

  • Ian

    no abs. no traction control. no deal.

  • Campisi

    No, but then again I don’t do large motorcycles. As others have said, the target market probably doesn’t care how much it is.

  • ak

    If my pockets were bottomless, then, absolutely. But for the majority of subscribers on here (and in the real world), it is too much money for extracurricular excitement that is purely for touring. Maybe for a daily driver? I see even less of a market for someone with that much money to buy it as their ONLY mode transportation. It IS exotic, handmade, rare, and produced in the USA…JT Nesbitt should be writing their catalog, but again, what the fuck are you going to do with it? Just ride it? Be scared to scratch it let alone crash it (God forbid)?

    Investment wise, great choice. Undoubtedly it will be a collectors item in the future, especially first model year…you could also go buy a used Ferrari 456GT for a few more bucks and have some fun.

  • je

    Remove that fairing, put on the buell lightning lights, solo seat… Theres potential.

    I wouldnt mind the engine setting in something else.

  • Johndo

    They should go with the naked version first. And at that price I doubt they’ll find many customers. Some spend 100000$ on choppers that handle like crap…but those bikes have tons of details and bling to somewhat justify the price (even if most of them just look ridiculous to me). Bu this kind of bike is just a practical touring machine with a cool engine I think anything above 20k$ and it will stay on the shelves. I mean you get a MUltistrada loaded with electronics for almost half the price….
    And on top of that the Motus is not really sexy either (the naked version looked cool though)…not ugly, but not quite sexy.

  • Sam

    I really want to like this bike. I think the real problem is that all of it’s competition are way cheaper and most of them are available with ABS/TC which it lacks. Especially now that they dropped the GDI it doesn’t have much of a tech edge over any of it’s competition. 3-4 years ago I bet this bike would have been a home run.

  • jonoabq

    Low to mid twenty k, and it would get serious consideration, anything more than that and it’s not even worth a quick head turn.
    Is it different? )and by that I mean different in a good way) Sure. Does that by itself make it good enough to consider purchasing? No, not at $37k.

    It is ugly…strip the front plastics, leave the luggage and it would make a very, very nice city bike. More so if it were in the $20k range.

  • rubber_side_up

    Mad amounts of respect to these guys for pulling this together, and putting an (I assume and hope) awesome American motorcycle back on the market. They however completely missed the price point.

    I would gladly pay 25 for a base version and even 28 for the R, but when you start hitting the thirty thousand mark people want something that makes their blood boil. Emotional attachment that makes you stay up at night with sweats dreaming of the potential for speed, fun, sexiness etc. This is much too senisble of a segment for that IMHO. They will sell a few, collectors, people in the know, all American buyers, they will all be into this. However someone like JT who commented above knows how difficult it is to sell in that upper end of the market, and JT made some damn sexy bikes that made peoples’ blood boil. The only thing making my jeans jiggle about this bike is the engine, and as sweet as that is I don’t know that it’s enough.

    I sincerely hope Motus and Pratt and Miller keep making these engines and throw them in something that has so much sex it makes old ladies drool when it goes by. Give me something that makes my toes curl and I may pay 37 grand for it.

  • robotribe

    Hell for No.

  • Tony T.

    30k and no ABS or TC? Seems like an easy way to stuff thirty grand into a guardrail if you look at it wrong.

    • PapaP

      Ordinarily I would disagree, but given the light(er) weight of this thing plus 120 torques on tap, I’d agree. TCS and ABS should be included, particularly at this price. I just think it really reinforces the opinion some people have expressed about this being just another boutique bike.

      • t-pod

        My guess is that they can’t afford the development costs of TCS/ABS at this point. They’re not 100% plug and play systems; it takes deep pockets to fund that engineering effort.

        Motus is still a start up, after all. They may want that technology, but the reality is that they can’t afford it (kind of like the bike itself…)

  • rndholesqpeg

    I would like to say yes I would, but I think I would end up with an 1199 and a multistrada before that.

    If there is one motor that sounds better than a Duc to me, it is the Motus. The thing sounded so mean when I saw it at Barber.

  • DoctorNine

    I’m actually thinking about getting one now, so yes.
    Depends on whether or not I’m getting another car this year.

  • Rick

    The photos in this article are of last year’s pre-production model; the 2012 bikes Motus displayed at Daytona are much more impressive, especially the top-shelf $37K MST-R with its Brembo and Öhlins componentry (HFL should be using photos of the latest-spec machines here, lest subscribers have to view them on the free moto sites, capisce?)

    The price, while not cheap, isn’t unexpected given the company’s tiny size and economies of scale. Put it this way: it’s way less expensive than anything Erik Buell is pushing out the door and he has the benefit of a pre-existing engine supplier and many industry connections!

    If the Motus is anywhere near as competent as we are being told the pricetag is nothing short of miraculous.

  • rohorn

    I’d like to know what the dealers think. I also wonder how many other bikes will be sold by having a Motus on the floor.

    I think that answers from those who don’t own a motorcycle and search Craigslist for “CB750″, “XS650″, “CX500″, or “GB500″ with the price:max set at “$300.00″ are irrelevant.

    • Tom Fiegener


      Tom Fiegener, RPM Cycle, Dallas Motus Dealer,

      Lots of attention! A few customers have stuck their nose up at it and anyone who would buy it, but overall we have gotten really positive feed back! I also thinks that is some of the appeal, we didn’t get into motorcycles because we wanted to fit into the crowd!

      Seems to be mid to upper middle class crowd (Jay Leno hasn’t stopped by the shop to throw his deposit down yet)… It is appealing to true motorcycle guys. Seems to be two types; ones who have fallen for the bike and the company’s story, the second being the one of every bike crowd.

      • rohorn

        Thanks for the inside view.

        When I was in the business, more than a few customers had new BMWs AND H-Ds (some with several of each) parked in their garages – the combined prices were a LOT higher than this one.

    • BigRooster


      People buy all sorts of expensive shit. The opinion of the unwashed masses is moot. People have bought the $20K LiteSpeed bicycle, the $150K MV Agusta F4cc, and $100K H1 Hummers – so why not this?

      Hell, people are dropping almost $40K on the Nissan leaf. But why? It’s way cheaper to buy a Versa and a 20yrs worth of gas, right? Of course, but that totally misses the buying motive of those interested in an electric car.

  • JTourismo

    Can most of us posting afford this bike? My assumption is no, myself included. Which makes the relevance of most of our opinions sort of suspect to begin with.

    However, I will proceed anyway. This is the good ole’ US of A and there are hundreds/thousands of wealthy individuals who buy things…(bikes included) just because they can. Using that logic, I can not foresee a situation where Motus struggling to sell boutique bikes built to pamper and tickle the asses of their likely purchasing demographic…..(shudder)

    The real question becomes, will that demand be high enough to continue making MST’s? And will Motus then manage to create a more affordable product. In a perfect world I would love to see more american manufacturers duking it out amongst the majors, making great products. Nothing motivates like a good rivalry and I would lover to see Motus/Buell start competing with eachother. A new Buell Sport tourer and a Motus Superbike would do the trick.

  • Tom Fiegener

    I work at RPM Cycle, the Dallas Motus Dealer.
    We have two guys with deposits down already! I think the bike appeals to the crowd who might purchase things like an ICON FJ (US Ground Up Truck based on the Toyota FJ)

    It has a good mix of utilitarianism mixed with American pride.

    How many people who own a Desmosedici actually ride it?? (Not saying they are equivalent bikes) But to the average rider, what is he going to get more use out of?

    CVO Harley Electra Glide: $37,250

    …No one who reads hell for leather would buy this, but people do. Definitely worse things to spend money on!

    Lee and Brian are true motorcycle guys and are extremely passionate about this machine! They will find a way to make this company make it!


    • Erok

      Ha, good point. I think everyone on here tries to forget how much money Harley charges for their products. Makes this an amazing deal.

  • Kevin

    I don’t see why there can’t be an active exotic motorcycle market. And why not for sport tourers? They get ridden more than sport bikes anyway. I have not much use for a bike that turns into a torture rack after a couple hundred miles. I like to go places on my bike, not just canyon blast.

    Still, I wonder if there isn’t more percentage in concentrating on design, chassis, suspension, etc. rather than going for a custom motor. Of the $37K, how much is for that V-4?

    • http://www.postpixel.com.au mugget

      Looks like alot of people are jumping the gun… who’s to say that the chassis, suspension etc. isn’t great as-is? No one has even ridden the MST and given a review/report yet.

      Don’t forget there’s also some high-spec equipment backing up the $30k asking price.

    • BigRooster

      I dont know but EBR didnt use a proprietary motor and his bike is even more expensive.

  • Robert

    What a disappointment the Motus lead up has come to.
    All that hype = stupid money. It makes the over priced VFR 1200 appear to be a great bargin! You could buy and mod the Honda, take a month off, and go on a 10,000 mile camping tour of the US and still have beer money left over! All things Motus now go to my spam folder.

    • BigRooster

      The people that buy a bike like this dont think in the terms of your comment.

  • http://www.postpixel.com.au mugget

    If I wanted a bike that I could just put alot of miles on and do alot of travelling the Motus would be at the very top of my list. I remember reading about the service intervals and it seemed like a very strong engine, very large service intervals.

    The other thing I’m looking forward to is seeing what people come up with when the ‘hot rodding’ starts.

    Also I’d take the naked version myself. If they are going to make one? I just remember a naked prototype from a while back – that looked awesome. Let that big V4 show itself off!

    • Devin

      The last time Wes asked, they had said the naked was just for showcasing the engine, and they didn’t expect people to actually like it. The naked was in consideration. I don’t know if that turned into a never or a later, but I am also curious.


    Don’t get me wrong, I love the bike. And IF I HAD that much spare money, I’d take one. But I don’t. I NEVER will. Maybe if the standard one was price $10,000 cheaper, the BMW’s price, I’d think about it.

  • ToFuse

    I have a couple of motorcycles, and I could see condensing them into one of these, and insuring only one instead of four. Might even be able to convince my wife that move is a smart one

  • Scott-jay

    Nope, doesn’t strike a chord with moto-me.
    In-the-market-me is silent, too.
    Multistrada on the the other hand…

  • Devin

    Lots of people have 40K to drop on a motorcycle. Especially in the volume they are selling.

    Sport-touring and adventure bikes are the new hotness compared to cruisers, so if Boss Hoss’s can sell, this one can as well for sure.

    Also, Corvette lovers who also like bikes will want one to park beside their Vette in the garage. The pedigree of the Boss Hoss engine was one reason people wanted it, and don’t under-estimate the passion of Vette-people.

    Would I pay that much for this: No

    Do I think other people will: Yes. Very much so. I think this could be a hit.

    • BigRooster

      Agree 100%. I would not pay this much for ANY bike, I won’t pay more than $15K for ANY bike, not because I can’t afford it, but because I don’t see any added value after that point – and I prefer to buy used.

      Makes you wonder if HD had thought outside the box and developed such an engine for the Vrod line rather than the derivative Revo v-twin would they have been more successful (if not more interesting)? Corvette lineage speaks more to the HD demographic than Porsche engineering, and it would at least be something unique in the lineup.

      • Ax

        H-D is so caught up in their self-made mystique and image that I seriously doubt they will EVER be able to sell (in any significant numbers) anything outside of the corner box they’ve painted themselves into. The VROD was/is too different from the H-D mold to sell well as it is – had it been even more innovative and different, it probably would’ve been even more of a flop. No, H-D sheep want the same old thing over and over and over again but packaged in new clothes (or at least new colors). It’s “tradition”.

        • Devin

          They might not have sold to existing Harley fanatics (but likely would have appealed more to dedicted Harley pirates than the Revo), but they will have sold to motorheads in general. OMG, half a made-in-America-smallblock AND a Harley, best bike ever!

          Non bikers, either through marketing or word of mouth, really think a Harley is the cat’s ass, and that if you buy a non-harley, it’s because you couldn’t afford the coin for a the real McCoy.

          One of the first questions I was asked about my Bonneville was why didn’t I spring for the Sportster.

          • aristurtle

            That only applies to something like a Bonneville and not something with a fairing.

            Not even a non-biker would mistake a Motus for a Harley. They may mistake it for a Goldwing or a BMW tourer or whatever, certainly.

  • mikedard

    I’ve waited and watched this bike since they started promoting it and I like it except for the chain. If the price had been a little less I would have been more likely to consider it, and the fact it has a chain no. It being a American bike was, is a factor, not having most creature comfort stuff of modern Sport Touring bikes, and being $10,000 more than the one to beat… the BMW K1600GT.

    • Ax

      +1. The chain has always seemed to me like an odd choice for a sport-tourer. If I had the money (which I don’t) that would probably be the deal breaker. On a sport bike, sure. But on a bike made to do serious miles? Uh…

  • mikedard

    I waited for a Honda V5 Sport Touring bike that was rumored, and we got the VFR 850 which was a nice bike but no cigar. Waited for the BMW K1600GT and we got a 700lb great touring bike, but really 700lbs, not a Sport Touring bike sorry no cigar. MST… I guess they saw the new Harley prices and decided somebody would pay it because its a better bike than a Harley. Now I’m to old, I’ll keep my BMW K1200GT, or buy a used K1300GT. You know I’m the end of the Baby Boomer era, maybe I’ll cross country in my Audi, and buy a Norton for $20,000 :)


    if price is a concern at all, the ZX14 with helibars would be the hands-down performance option for sport touring.

    • TuffGong

      ZX 14 is one heavy,hot pig of a SportTourer with an overabundance of HP…..which is why the latest Concours will never be the hit the old one was….and it was lighter,just as hot,and less motor…

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  • http://www.tripleclamp.net Sasha Pave

    That’s a tough price point. When you look at it in relation to the others in the spreadsheet, it’s not too outlandish, but it’s still considerably higher.

    I want Motus to be a contender for the old fart like me who would fork out 23k for a fully loaded BMW (assuming I had that much).

    If they could get the entry point down to 25k and then farkle-up the high end model for 5k more, I think they’d rope-in more farts.

  • loki76

    No, its met to be used and at that price it won’t it’ll be shown off at Starbucks.

  • http://www.lgdm.fr stempere

    It’s a bit above my impulse buy price limit so i would think about it seriously beforhand, and the weight is a very nice point against the K16 (although it’s supposed to be very agile).
    I guess (being down to one motocycle now) it would be a bit down on the list but it would be there, sure… if it was available in Europe.

    Also, MST in french stands for Maladie Sexuellement Transmissible… or Sexually Transmited Disease in english. Nice.

  • Coreyvwc

    I’ll hold my opinions until I see a ride review from HFL. Price aside, all the numbers make this thing look really really good on paper. I have to think that it’s unbelievably fun to ride!

  • Greg Fagan

    Not to be _that_ guy, but it does not in fact beg the question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

    No I would not pay $37k for such a bland looking bike. :)

    • BigRooster

      Did you even read the entire Wiki page? So not neccesarily correct but not out of the norm for usage.

      Modern usage: Many English speakers use “begs the question” to mean “raises the question,” or “impels the question,” and follow that phrase with the question raised,[12] for example, “this year’s deficit is half a trillion dollars, which begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?” Many philosophers and grammarians deem such usage incorrect.[13][14] Academic linguist Mark Liberman recommends avoiding the phrase entirely, noting that because of shifts in usage in both Latin and English over the centuries, the relationship of the literal expression to its intended meaning is unintelligible and therefore it is now “such a confusing way to say it that only a few pedants understand the phrase.”[2]

    • http://www.postpixel.com.au mugget

      WTF? Sir Greg, you win for most random post.

      I feel fairly confident that most readers/commenters on HFL are just regular folks, not scholars. So this begs the question of why you posted the Wikipedia link? Some things, we may never know the answer to…

  • NickK

    God, no.

  • Core


  • Your_Mom

    If I had the cash, of course. Then I’d strip it down to make a naked, muscle-bike – which is in there and just needs to be revealed.

  • Will


  • ErikT

    Definite No. I’m sure there are some people with that kind of income who may be able to pay a premium for something unique; However, I am not one of those individuals.

  • magrahamkp08

    If i had the cash. I definitely would. There is finally an American bike i would buy…..errr if i had the money

    • Brad W.

      Agreed. Also you could ride it everyday.

  • Michael

    The question to be answered is where do I buy one and where do I have to go to get it serviced? If I have to cross three state lines for service/warranty work, that’s not working for me.

  • walter

    ‘They said it couldn’t be done.’

    What they meant to say is, it couldn’t be done economically.

    The question should be, would you pay a $20,000 premium to prove that a 100 cubic inch V4 muscle car engine belongs in a bike? A shiny bike.

    • BigRooster

      Corvette is a muscle car?

  • Justin

    I’d love to own one, but would never pay that much for it.

  • scott

    Maybe… if it had traction control and ABS at that price.

  • jason

    Rich doofus toy. No dice.

  • oldblue

    Really? That much?

    If I really wanted something that looked like the result of a drunken night spent between a Honda ST1100 and a Ducati ST2, I might stretch to $5K.

    Actually, probably not.

  • PapaP


    I couldn’t care less about exclusivity. From my perspective the reasons to buy are: Comfort, Styling, Flexibility and Pricing. All of which can be found on multiple steeds for thousands less (Multistrada, 1600GT, K1300S, VFR1200).

    Knock $10,000 off the starting price and I could learn to deal with the lack of tech and Hyosung styling.

    • Edward

      Hyosung . . . I knew it reminded me of something!