RideApart 3: Why quads are awesome

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Four wheels like a car, but handlebars and a saddle like a motorcycle. With quad bikes, it’s almost like someone took the most awesome part of driving — drifting — and combined it with the most exciting thing about riding dirt bikes — jumping — to create a vehicle with a single purpose: hooning. We take off into the Hungry Valley OHV park of the Los Padres National Forest onboard Suzuki Z400s and a King Quad to try and get as dirty as possible.

  • ike6116

    “he’s never had a bad motorcycle accident”

    wow you really jinxed the shit out of him eh?

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Well, I’ve seen Sean MacD have plenty of non-bad ones, so I think he’s about even.

      • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

        where’s the footage from the go-pro that was strapped to my chest?

  • tbowdre

    Quads are so ffffffcking lame! When I rode motocross once in a while quads would show up at the track on practice days and they would throw up tons of roost and the riders would be fish tailing all over the place. With them not maintaining a line or holy shit with two of them going at it in front of you might get taken out if you weren’t careful.

    still bitter just thinking about it

    • Justin [CBR(s):250&F2/3,K6 GSXR1K, XR600]

      Quads can be effing dangerous too. I’ve been to the Oceano dunes (near Pismo) a couple times, and there’s always a helicopter carting off some quad on quad accident. It’s far to easy to drink and ride a quad, and I’ve seen all kinds of hospitalizations due to this.

      • tomwito

        Yeah I had a girlfriend that almost lost her leg when she hit a rock and her foot came off. The rear left tire ran over her foot and the foot peg impailed her thigh and tore a 12″ gash. Horrible wound, scarred for life.

    • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

      doesnt sound like quads are lame, sounds like the people that were on them were rude (never happens with dudes on dirt bikes, i know).

      and you guys are seriously complaining about quads being dangerous because your friend was hurt on them? this show is about adventures and bikes. it’s dangerous sometimes.

      wear good gear. be smart and don’t ride up hills that Wes and Grant tell you will be funny. you’ll be ok.

      • tbowdre

        No, I stand by my statement. Quads are definitely lame…. but I’m also lame for being a sexist asshole.

        (comment edited by Wes)

        • tbowdre

          HAhahha. okay okay

      • tomwito

        Quads are 2 times as dangerous. Fact!

      • Justin [CBR(s):250&F2/3,K6 GSXR1K, XR600]

        Quads are pretty lame in my opinion. They ruin OHV parks with their excessive power and drunk drivers. They’re dangerous because they’re heavy and because the quad drivers tend to be reckless. I’ve seen too many multiple quad accidents to ever get down with them. Flying out on a helicopter with a neck brace because some other guy was a drunk ass is not my idea of fun. It’s part of why I gravitate towards single track. The quads fat asses can’t go there. Much safer IMHO.

        Anyways, riding is dangerous enough, why add to the risk? We all complain about tires that will grip far beyond what you will need on the street, so why not crazily driven 700lb 80hp 4 wheel roll-over monsters on the fire trails?

        • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

          talking about quads and quad drivers are two completely different things.

          the engine in that quad is the same in the their dirtbikes, so your comment about excessive power is incorrect.

          the quads ridden in this episode are 425 lbs which is about 200 LESS than the adv bikes in the first episode.

          i will absolutely agree that it easier to ride a quad while under the influence. i also agree that because the technique for turning a quad is different from a dirtbike, it would be incredibly annoying to ride a dirtbike on a track with a quad like tbowdre said.

          im not saying you have to like riding quads or like being around them or their typical rider, but let’s practice some rational thinking in our arguments.

          i never wanted to try dirtbikes because of who i saw riding them and the perception i had of them. wes finally got me on one and i absolutely fell in love.

          dont let drunk rednecks ruin your perception of quads. don’t let squids ruin your perception of sport bikes. don’t let bro’s with energy drinks in their blood ruin dirt bikes. don’t let hipsters ruin your perception of beautiful motorcycles. don’t let harley’s ruin your perception of cruisers. don’t let wes and grant ruin your perception of new yorkers.

  • http://greatjoballweek.blogspot.com/ Case

    Best video so far. Good job guys. Quads look like a hell of a lot of fun. The crash from Other Sean didn’t look like much fun but I’m guessing he was okay? Nothing broken? The quad didn’t have any parts fly off that I could see. Particularly liked the 4-wheeling demo on through the mud puddle.

    • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

      ya, totally fine. little bruise here and there but we were all wearing good gear.

      the crash happened just before lunch. i was still able to hop back on and leave Wes behind for the rest of the day.

  • Wolfgang Romero

    Awesome episode, looking forward to next Monday. Seeing this makes me want to ditch the office and hit the road

    • nick2ny

      And ditch the road and hit the trail.

  • DAVID

    sacrilege!

  • Kirk

    Oh man I have so many good memories with my old 350 Warrior. Fast powerslides, long jumps, mud bogging, that thing could and would do anything. I miss that quad :(

  • wascostreet

    Nothing like SoCal after a rain.

    Having never piloted a quad, I’d think that it would take a while to rewire my brain not to countersteer it like a bike.

    • Sean Smith

      Just roll off the throttle before you countersteer and everything will be fine ;)

  • The other Joe

    What’s a quad bike? There is no such thing! It’s either a quad or a bike.

    Quads are OK for sand, I guess, but no sand around here and quads can’t go fast in the woods, so not very popular here.

    The only quads I ever see are the utility type that the laziest of the hunters use.

  • wwalkersd

    Nice job again, guys. One proofreader’s note on the titles: what’s a KINGOUAD? Sounds like some Arab king. :)

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Weird font quirk, look closely and that’s definitely a Q.

  • nymoto

    Rad episode – 4wheelers are a blast.
    “quads are lame” whatever – if I could I would have one street legal in NYC. So fun.

    By the way – buy a full-size truck you won’t be disappointed. Or at least get the 6 ft bed option on the Suzuki. Anything smaller is not very useful.

    • Ben

      You should see the crazy shit they have street legal in Europe.

      Still the worst of both worlds. No lane splitting, and you get rained on.

      • Sean Smith

        Nah, a sidecar is the worst of both worlds. They go sideways when you try to stop or accelerate, and when you try to turn right, they want to flip over. A quad is just a shriner-scale rally car you sit on top of and control like a motorcycle.

  • DavidMG

    My only experience with quads was when I was about 11 years old. My dad let me and my sister ride one in some dude’s ranch somewhere between Mexico city and Toluca.

    No instruction or any sort of safety speech worth mentioning, no helmet or any safety equipment whatsoever. My sister and I both flew off the thing when we tried going over a little jump they’d built. That was the end of that.

    I should try it again sometime. Minus the flying bodies.

    Thinking back, there are many examples of my dad really not being very good at teaching me to be safe. Probably why I’m such a safety nazi now.

    Also, great video!

  • http://www.firstgenerationmotors.blogspot.com Emmet

    I never knew watching Wes undress could be so…educational

    • Sean Smith

      …and thats how Wes still has all his arms and legs kids.

      • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

        True story.

  • Cro

    Bitchin episode. Another fine job. I live to hoon.

  • Adam N

    The real reason that quads are awesome is that they allow drunk people to go really fast in an environment where there isn’t much law enforcement. Like snowmobiles, now the most obese can enjoy deep penetration of remote areas so that basically nothing is off limits and nowhere is wilderness.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Grant Ray

      That’s a real sore spot for me. As much as I love dirt bikes and ATVs, I love the wilderness even more. And every time I’m in the woods out here in the West, I see where asshole bikers and ATV dicks track up wilderness. I could go on a massive rant, so I should just stop now.

      • Campisi

        I’ll admit to wincing a bit when one of the quads in the video hit a deep rutted puddle on the path, worsening a bit of scarring that won’t go away by itself. At least you guys stuck to the paths, and for that we thank you.

    • http://vtbmwmov.org Eben

      Yah. It looks like fun, for sure, but I worry that the part of one’s brain that finds it fun is the same part that finds caged hunting fun or might think chaining a girl up in the basement is a good move. It’s not the fault of the quads themselves, but they do attract a certain kind of moron and give them power they probably don’t deserve.

    • Dylan

      The (not so) funny thing is thats what I think of cars. All my “friends” have modded cars and drive really fast/recklessly while intoxicated. On the other hand I just ride really fast when I know im as clear headed as possible. Having 4 wheels and not having to worry about balance just gives people a false sense of security. Or at least it did for someone I know until he tried to take a right hand turn at over 100mph in his modded STi and ran right over the median. Thankfully it was late at night and he didn’t hit anyone.

  • Hamfisted

    Quads really depress me. It’s like planning a trip to Vegas and then getting sidetracked in Primm. You think your just stopping for gas and the next thing you know your broke-ass is search the gutters for discarded cigs and your thinking that whoring yourself out may not be such a bad idea. They frigg’n really depress me.

    • Roman

      Wait, what?

  • http://www.ninja250blog.com R.Sallee (Ninja 250)

    Remember when you guys lived in New York City?

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Grant Ray

      I’d kill to do a show on the runts who terrorized East Harlem on quads while I lived on 110th and 1st Ave. Those kids were fearless. And I still say the Mexican food in that hood was easily just as good as anything I’ve had in LA.

      • Bronson

        A couple years ago when I was working in Center City Philadelphia I witnessed 6 kids on Yamaha Banshees ride right though Center City and around City Hall during the evening rush hour. It was pretty badass.

  • muckluck

    You guys look way too tall on those quads did it ever feel awkward?

    • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

      i felt super awkward and huge when i put it in gear for the first time and started off (i hadn’t ridden quads in 15 years and was used to utility quads).

      that all went away as soon as we started going fast or turning. these were incredibly well thought out machines for what we were doing and i wouldn’t have changed a thing about them.

  • Keith

    Great episode! I would like to try riding a quad but there is nothing close to Toronto like you have in SoCal.
    Wes, nice to hear you say that you are actually a bit scared. Most of us would be but would bluster some bullshit anyway :)
    Looks like you guys have fun so keep ‘em comin’

    • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

      that’s the nice thing about having a few people in the episode and not just Wes. it’s hard to lie about how good you are when the other dudes have to stop and wait for you every 5 minutes.

      • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Grant Ray

        Zing!

  • debra

    way to much fun in this rideapart show!!

  • http://twitter.com/metabomber Jesse

    “Aw man. This is a terrible idea. I’m gonna get hurt.”
    *throttle up*

    Looks like awesome times were had.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Exactly. Glad you get it.

  • http://www.TroyRank.com Troy R

    This episode would have been better on actual bikes.

    • austin_2ride

      “Quads are for people who can’t ride bikes!”

  • tomwito

    I was under the impression that you guys were all a lot better riders.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Grant Ray

      Riding in the dirt confidently takes endless hours of practice. I grew up riding dirt roads and bombing around the pastures, whereas Wes hadn’t been on a quad since our trip to Moab a couple of years ago and MacDonald hadn’t been on a quad in years.

      This episode wasn’t about being badasses, it was about having good times on quads, so there was no need for me to blaze off and leave the group behind. Also, I’m just not the kind of guy who needs to go show off for the camera.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      We’re trying to make a product that’s accessible, relatable and that has personality. More Anthony Bourdain than flat bill, lifted pickup dude crushing energy drinks then practicing the one sport he’s done since a kid.

      • http://mansgottado.tumblr.com/ Andy Gregory

        Did you say Anthony Bourdain in the context of quads?!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPAWmS-sm-8

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          Ha, forgot about that. Great show though.

          • http://mansgottado.tumblr.com/ Andy Gregory

            It is a great show. Sean’s wipeout is a little less dramatic, but still good. Amazing no one got seriously hurt in either of those, but especially Tony as he’s wearing no real protection whatsoever.

            • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

              excuse me?!?!?!?!

              • http://mansgottado.tumblr.com/ Andy Gregory

                Dude, you (wisely) jumped off, whereas Bourdain’s body flipped over his machine like a ragdoll. Plus your quad only rolled twice, while his is hard to count but I think it’s five rotations.

                • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

                  totally kidding.

                  it wasnt all that scary to be apart of and while i’d hoped it would look more intense for the show’s sake, am not surprised it looks super lame.

                  after hearing about this “huge jump” all day, im glad i at least tried it and didnt take the sissy way out like “Captain Offroad” Grant Ray and not even attempt it.

      • tomwito

        I understand, I watch Bourdain regularly. I like the video too. I started out riding dirt 30 years ago and only been riding on the street the last 3 years. I just remember when I would ride my friends quads it was just so much easier to go fast. Pin it and not let off the gas till my muscles couldn’t take it anymore. Wasn’t trying to insult anyone (really wasn’t).

    • Sean Smith

      The HFL hired ringer is out recovering from an injury right now.

      • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

        $5 in the douche jar

  • Gene

    Stupid quad trivia: The Yamaha 350 Banshee motor was the exact same as the RZ-350 motor, minus the YPVS power valve.

    Which is good because it meant parts were still in production and cheap when my RZ lunched its transmission.

  • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

    all of youtube is in an uproar because you said “quadbike.”

    nice job, asshole.

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Stupid britishers ruining youtube for right thinking ‘muricans.

  • Wolfgang Romero

    That Suzuki truck looks great too, however, I went to the Suzuki website and that particular model RMZ-4 is going for almost 30k, I wonder if there was some speciall offer when you got that one cause Wes said it cost 23k

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      I was told 23 on the day…

      • Campisi

        Well, it’s an unknown rebadge of a largely unloved truck from a dead brand walking (at least here in the United States), so the dealer would probably be willing to dig pretty deep in order to sell you one.

        • http://www.ClevelandCycleWerks.com scottydigital

          The Suzuki is a rebadged Nissan Frontier, and I personally love my truck, takes a licking and keeps on squeaking.

  • walter

    Hell for cup holders.

    • Ben

      RideApart 4: Hemorrhoid Cushions

      Grant: “You know, on motorcycles some times its intense sitting down.”

      Wes: “Totally, but on this inflatable cushion its nice to know that my ass isn’t going to die”

      Grant: “People just need to realise that ‘roid cushions are fun too”

  • Campisi

    Quads? Bah! Real men kill themselves on Honda ATC 250Rs, or at least an ATC 200e Big Red.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cheese302 Cheese302 [Street Triple R]

    had a yamaha warrior back in the day. once again the hell of tnhe northeast and finding places to legally ride forced me to get rid of it. Good episode, good to see people just having fun out there.

  • dux [87 CBR600, 95 XR600R]

    Thumbs up, dudes! Fun episode. All it’s missing are mullets and beer cans ;)