RideApart 9: The booming Triumphs of Garage Company

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Vintage British bikes are the ultimate fantasy for many older bikers as well as those pesky whippersnapping hipsters, especially the stylish and loud twin 650s by Triumph. And a visit to see the incredible collection at Yoshi Kosaka’s Garage Company in LA is better than Disneyland. Jamie Robinson and Adey Bennett snag two of Garage Company’s finest vintage Triumphs and head to the Malibu canyons to find out if vintage really is heaven.

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  • Jon B.

    fucking awesome. <3

  • Tony T.

    That was great! I’m loving the sense of rapport that is coming across in these newer episodes.

  • Roman

    So that Jaime guy can ride the motorcycle a little bit, eh?

  • Coreyvwc

    Great episode!

  • Campisi

    I particularly enjoyed watching them get the old things started each time. Manual accelerator pumps that dump gas everywhere? Awesome.

    • Jake

      It’s called “tickling” your Amals. Yet another reason why I run Jap carbs on my Brits ;)

      • http://lightsoutknivesout.tumblr.com/ Scott Pargett

        Funny, I got the opposite going on. New Amal 626′s have my 62 Honda Superhawk running better than it ever has for the past year.

        • http://www.lgdm.fr stempere

          Damn i’m feeling so square with my mikunis on an 82 bol d’or…

  • paulo

    Oh man what a way to start my day, Great episode. Loved the music too! These just keep getting better and better.

  • walter

    Very well made and entertaining.
    Kudos.

    The sound of those engines are making Kong go crazy!

  • Scott-jay

    Green Triumph is beautiful.
    You guys are really getting good at this.

    • doublet

      Is that a bevel drive Ducati chassis?

  • Miles Prower [690 Duke, MTS 1200]

     
    MY FAVORITE LINES

    Yoshi: “Sometime, you know, scary — hey, no leak oil, maybe no oil.”

    Adey: “I got my skinny jeans on — I’m ready man.”

    • http://greatjoballweek.blogspot.com/ Case

      I’m late to this, but the Yoshi line about the oil was my favorite too. I thought it was a good episode. The bikes are lovely but I would not want to own one.

  • Triman023

    XLNT! No air cleaners on the Bonny? That and this bike had no oil filter, its a short life for that engine!

  • Eric

    Great episode!

  • jason

    Finally see what Adey looks like.
    Great stuff: keep it coming.

  • filly-fuzz

    shit, you weren’t joking with that male model crap.

    The Rideapart’s are sweet but will daily content pickup again? Maybe get that cripple Sean to write some thing for once……..
    I joke, sorry Sean!

    But seriously the episodes are getting quite slick. Idea for a future ep: Get Harley’s, try them out. Then tell the world they blow.

    • Ben

      daily content I miss.

      Rideapart is cool and all but it takes me about 3 days to load in SE Asia. Im stuck here in the dark ages where we have to READ things from the internet still…

      • Campisi

        THIS. Ride Apart takes my connection about two hours to load up properly. Totally worth it, though.

    • JMcMahon

      I grow really tired of the Harley hate. You guys are like Star Wars fans that are pissed that George Lucas did not make the movie that you wanted him to make.

      Guess what, Lucas pulls in billions and kids think Jar Jar is funny.

      Harley probably wont win any more road race titles, or rocket men across the Bonneville Salt flats, but they did do those things and we are all richer for it.

      Enjoy the old movies and let the kids have their Jar Jar.

      • ike6116

        I like shitting on Harley and will continue to do it so long as they make it so easy.

        And I agree that people who like the new Star Wars movies are just like Harley riders. Non-discerning, low information buyers usually with below 6th grade reading level.

      • matt

        I like the jar jar / Harley analogy. Solid. Thanks for that.

      • filly-fuzz

        Hey I said “Try them out”

        There is a chance that the HFL staff will fall in love and fart off into the sunset.

      • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate Ben W

        Besides, the “old” Star Wars fans are less upset about the new Star Wars films as they are about the constant tinkering/editing/ruining of the original films – and not providing an original version at retail.

        C’mon now, get with the geeky program.

        • BigRooster

          Nerds, nerds, nerds – NERDS!

          • 80-watt Hamster

            You called?

      • Gene

        “Harley probably wont win any more road race titles, or rocket men across the Bonneville Salt flats, but they did do those things and we are all richer for it.”

        There’s a phrase for that. It’s called “resting on your laurels”

        “Ah, you have a Harley…”
        “Yeah!”
        “I’m sorry….”

    • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

      Making the show takes a day out of the office per week for all of us, plus another day picking up/dropping off bikes and shit like that. Add in production time and it’s just a huge undertaking. That, plus we’re working on another massive project behind the scenes and I think you’ll agree that it’s a miracle two of us are able to create the amount and quality of content we’re able to. Remember, we’re still kicking the ass of publications that have editorial staffs of 6-12 people, free to focus on content creation only.

      We’ll be showing that other massive project shortly. I think you’ll all agree that this has all been worthwhile.

      • http://www.firstgenerationmotors.blogspot.com Emmet

        maybe sub out writing? That Hawaiian ride story was fucking excellence

      • filly-fuzz

        I agree, you guys are doing a fucking awesome job and we all know it’s just gonna get bigger and better.

        Anyway you should be flattered that we your readers hold HFL to such a ridiculously (unreasonable) high standard. It’s a testament to the quality of your content and the quality of your subscribers. It’s very hard to find a place that can combine motorcycles, brain cells and serve it with a side dish of class.

        Can’t wait for that massive project.

        Cheers

  • RagdollOp

    Great episode!

    The only thing that was bothering me and this is coming from a person that does film and video for a living, was way too much “image stabilization!” It kept warping the shots and looking really strange. I would rather see a little shake than see a lot of warp.

    Other than that all the episodes are top notch!

    • paulo

      picky picky I didn’t even notice. camera work and post was sweet! : )

    • Eric

      I don’t think that’s image stabilization. I’m pretty sure it’s a rolling shutter artifact.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter

      “Wobble. This phenomenon (also known as the jello effect) is most common in hand-held shots at telephoto settings, and most extreme in cases when the camera is vibrating, possibly due to being attached to a moving vehicle, for instance. The rolling shutter causes the image to wobble unnaturally and bizarrely.?

      • RagdollOp

        There is rolling shutter in some of the shots, but the stuff I am talking about wasn’t rolling shutter. I shoot and do post with dslrs a lot and know when I see rolling shutter.
        It was happening on the bike beauty shots when the bike was parked and the camera wasn’t moving fast and also other times.
        I presume that they were using a steady-cam or some stabilizer but it still had some unwanted movement so they tried to stabilize the shots in post.
        I’m not trying to be picky. It was just some constructive criticism.
        I love these episodes!

        • RagdollOp

          Here is one example that I am talking about. It happens while they are standing around talking. Look at Adey when the camera moves in slowly. He starts warping and so does other stuff.
          http://youtu.be/PWkQTbR_-xA?hd=1&t=2m

          • Michael

            I believe that is the YouTube image stabilization software, some other videos on YouTube have that issue too unfortunately.

          • Eric

            Ah I see it. Didn’t notice that the first time around.

            What’s going on? Is it skewing the image to compensate for camera roll?

  • The Blue Rider

    Great idea introducing a modern bike rider to the old stuff; for a viewer that has no experience with vintage anything, Adey’s reactions were a window into something new.

    Loved the episode, but as an animal lover I feel bad about the dead bunny. :(

    • jp182

      agree with Adey’s reaction and the bunny :-(

    • Scott-jay

      Entry riders will like it, too!

  • dux [87 CBR600, 95 XR600R]

    Those look like a cinch to kick-start…..compared to my XR, after I drop it in the woods on a muddy slope!

  • Archer

    Jamie Robinson is a natural. What a great show host.

    • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate Ben W

      Agreed. He’s a huge addition to the team.

  • http://twitter.com/metabomber Jesse

    This was swank. My suspicion is that either Jamie or Adey could ride a Paso like a canyon beast.

  • JT Nesbitt

    I thought it sucked. The only truly interesting character in this is Yoshi, and he only got a few lines. Do it over and get the real motorcycle guy in front of the camera. You want to talk about vintage motorcycles, then put somebody on that actually has the knowledge. For example- when they are talking about how old British motorcycles shift slowly, well that’s because they use a shifter plate, not a shifter drum. Yoshi would have known that. — JT

    • Danielsohn

      Not sucked, but definitely needed more Yoshi

    • jp182

      I got the impression that he’s not necessarily a talkative guy. That plus I’m assuming they wanted to show more bikes in motion and less show and tell?

      • http://rider49er.blogspot.com Mark D [EX500]

        Yoshi can chat it up for sure, I spent about 45 to an hour shooting the shit with him in Garage Company with (broken) Sean.

    • nick2ny

      RideApart Episode of Atonement:
      Old Brits, Take 2.

      • JT Nesbitt

        Seriously. HFL is supposed to be the place where male models on cafe racers gets laughed at. Was this episode Hasselhoff or McQueen? When are we going to see some quality journalism in these Ride Apart features?
        A little Japanese guy dedicates his entire life to motorcycles, builds what is probably the most awesome motorcycle store in the world, an THAT story is just a byline for muscle guys and brit presenters to ramble on about how cool old stuff is? Ride Apart is falling apart. — JT

        • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

          Go make a show using limited resources, then talk. As we grow over the coming years, we’ll be able to do stuff at a higher level.

          • JT Nesbitt

            “Hell For Leather was founded for a single purpose: to give you the motorcycle magazine that you deserve. You deserve something more than formulaic bike reviews. You deserve something more than conventional wisdom. You deserve something more than marketing speak rehashed as editorial content.” –Wes Siler 2008.

            A great mission statement and altruistic standard by which content can be judged. — JT

            • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

              about time.

        • http://www.firstgenerationmotors.blogspot.com Emmet

          yeah, it would’ve been awesome to hear more from Yoshi, but I think the episode accomplished reaching a broader audience.

          • The Blue Rider

            They might have spent all day hanging out with Yoshi, and shown us only ten minutes for show purposes, too.

            I wonder, might we see something like half-hour documentaries in the future?

          • http://www.lgdm.fr stempere

            Both are fair point i think, we’re moto nerds, but youtube isn’t behind a pay wall AND drive is primarily a car channel (when i look at youtube comments on the ride appart videos, they’s more often than not the “i’m a car guy but this is awesome” in there).
            Maybe keep the videos broad and, when posting about it, make a small feature about the stuff that didn’t make the cut and/or that’s too nerdy for the others, you know, the normals…

    • DavidMG

      “For example- when they are talking about how old British motorcycles shift slowly, well that’s because they use a shifter plate, not a shifter drum. Yoshi would have known that. — JT”

      Yeah, that sounds like compelling entertainment. I can hear the television dial as people switch to an other channel.

      Write a letter to Kevin Cameron asking him if he’d like to host a YouTube show. You can produce it. Seriously, I’ll watch it…

      • ike6116

        I dunno, Im more on JT’s side on this one. I found the episode lacking in the content department. I really hope rideapart doesnt degenerate into just Different Bikes + SoCal Canyons

        I’d rather watch interesting shit than stock footage. This is the internet not network television.

      • The Blue Rider

        If it takes ten seconds to turn off the traction control, I want to see all ten seconds, dammit.

        • filly-fuzz

          Jaaaaaaaaag

  • KP

    Camera work was particularly great in this episode. Well done.

  • http://www.facebook.com/adamgoldstein5 Goldhammer

    great episode, really enjoyed it. keep up the good work guys!!

    • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

      you love the slow-pan

  • matt

    Least favorite episode so far. Seemed to focus on the “gee whiz, look how kooky these things are, but they are pretty too” Wanted much more Yoshi. Maybe a compromise in terms of jumpier editing:
    “these bikes shift really slow”
    jump to yoshi explaining and showing why that is
    “look at the cool tool pouch on this one”
    jump to yoshi explaining and showing what’s in the pouch and why you need it.
    etc.
    just my input.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

      Yoshi was supposed to accompany us on the ride. But he hurt his back the day before. So stop complaining like a bunch of little bitches and take what you get for now…it’s the fucking beginning of something good. If you can’t see that, change the fucking channel. Tired of all the whinning…

      • Archer

        Nice way to talk to paying customers. Ditch the attitude, bub.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

          Just finished working out when I made that comment.
          Testosterone levels off the chart.lol
          I retract the profanity from my comment…not the message.

          • Archer

            Fair enough.

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

              Cheers

          • JT Nesbitt

            So your message remains…If you think that something on this site is sub-par, keep your mouth shut. We are a “bunch of little bitches” when we don’t agree….
            Have you ever actually been to this website? Allow me to quote from the Manifesto…

            “instead of simply consuming, you get to be a part of it too; Conversations are content.” – Wes Siler 2008

            You see my muscle-clad testoseroni-spokespersoni, Dissent is patriotic, and even if the truth cuts a little too deeply for you (and from your outpouring of emotions, I can tell that it does),I would propose that it is YOU who should change the “fucking channel”. —JT

            • guest

              I’m curious: if you really have the time to actually track back to copy and paste quotes from almost 5 years ago, and you’ve followed this site only to find it lacking and on it’s way down hill – why not just bow out and source elsewhere for the content you desire – instead of squawking about it on HFL’s boards about how bad they’re sucking as of late? It’s so simple to just stop visiting.

              • JT Nesbitt

                I really love HFL, especially the egalitarian ideals for which it stands. If I didn’t care, I would not participate. As for tracking down quotes from 5 years ago- It’s in the mission statement for this website at the bottom of the page! Click the “about” field to learn more…JT

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

              My problem lies with the people who can’t see the bigger picture here. HFL consist of Grant and Wes with very little outside help. They’re supplying you guys with the best content they can deliver right now. Show some patience, instead of disliking or stating “I thought it sucked.” Why not make positive suggestions to better the show content?

              Everything you think can be done in a episode, we’ve already planned to execute. But shit doesn’t alway pan out the way you planned. We’re doing the best with limited time and resources. If you can do better…have at it hoss.

              • JT Nesbitt

                “Motorcycle news for positive people” well that is The Kneeslider. This is the snakepit, where people are guaranteed the right to free speech. It is by design a forum for open exchange, even if it means taking a few lumps. I assure you sir, that I will be taking more than my fair share of ego-crushing nasty posts in the not-to distant future, and I will hold myself to the same standard. Culturally, HFL is unique in the motorcycle industry for that very reason. It is the opposite of the entertainment industry and better for it.
                I did indeed make positive suggestions for how to make the show better- improve the content. Substance over style. Humanity over vanity. Passion over production values, and a mining for the truth in all endeavors.
                I really don’t care to hear uninformed opinions about a topic that I clearly hold in reverence with the full extent of my personal passion.
                Suffering fools, anti-intellectualism, and lowest common denominators, celebrities, and sycophantic slatherings are the coin of the realm for cable TV, and I for one hope like hell that HFL stays very far away from such nonsense. —JT

                • ike6116

                  I am with you JT (except the whole “patriotic” and “free speech” thing that’s quite misapplied, this is a privately owned website, it’s a dictatorship, don’t you forget it, our dictators just happen to be benevolent) but to be fair on the whole anti-intellectualism debate weren’t you the one saying we needed more wrenchers and less nerds when it came to the whole electric vehicle thing not too long ago?

                • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

                  I understand you angst, relax…HFL is not going Hollywood (except for Wes’ fancy haircut). Now that I have a feel for who you are, I’ll treat you like Waldorf…one of the old guys from the Muppets spewing out your “ego-crushing nasty” comments from your balcony seat.

                • JT Nesbitt

                  Ahh I see…I am to be marginalized as a coot. A puppet sideshow of no consequence who neither contributes, nor carries any intellectual weight. Sounds like you wanna get REAL.
                  OK- I would first encourage every viewer of this thread to visit Adey’s website to get a feel for my newfound sparring partners chops. http://www.adeysworld.com be sure to check out the first video he has posted to HIS site.
                  Now, on to more pertinent matters. What I was really saying with my critique of this latest short film is it’s lack of depth, namely the lack of depth of its presenter- ie – YOU.
                  The last spoken line from this show, the closing message is from Adey himself…
                  “I give props to the old guys that were racing back then, because it takes alot.”

                  Wow!! Now that’s hard hitting moto-journalizm.

                  What if the program had been about the sculptors of the Italian Renaissance and the closing statement had been “I give props to the old guys that were carving stone back then, because it takes alot.”
                  Would that be good film? Why should the art form of the motorcycle be presented in a more dumbed down context than the art of Michelangelo? Well Adey… Why should it?

                • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

                  My favorite thing about you JT is that you feel free to be a coot sometimes.

                • JT Nesbitt

                  My favorite thing about you, Wes, is that you give me the freedom, and the fertile soil, for my cootishness to blossom. Or is it just enough rope to hang myself with? Either way, at least it’s interesting. — JT

                • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Wes Siler

                  <3

                • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

                  i love this debate.

                  Jt, you put into words quite eloquently what i think a lot of us who are close to those that run this ship feel and did so much better than i am certainly capable. there was a hunger in the fellas before that has turned into “i just have so much going on….you just dont understand….i have more important things…” and that has shy’d away from listening to any criticism or answering the questions that made this site and it’s creators so awesome. I wouldn’t care about, or even know about this site if i didn’t care about the guys running it and Jt’s description of the entertainment industry and what fits in the realm of cable tv outline my fears for the guys fairly perfectly.

                  Adey – you were a nice enough dude the times i’ve met you and I know you have a ton of knowledge that could be shared and that people could learn from. The problem is getting you to share something besides “stop being a bitch……grow some balls….look how cool I am/what a badass I am.” I really doubt you have enough information about everything being done behind the scenes to back up your claims about Wes and Grant really doing everything they can (not that i’m saying they’re not) and that certainly don’t need big bad Adey to come defend them. it is a criticism it seems a lot of the readers have and i think it is a fair one.

        • ike6116

          Can we all please acknowledge that someone said “bub” un-ironically?

          • Eric

            Wolverine uses the Internet too. . .

            • Archer

              Hmmm. Cigar smoker, check. Facial hair, check. Rides a motorcycle, check. Leather jacket, check. Always carrying weapons, check. Heals fast, check.

              Yup, I guess I AM Wolverine. Bub.

          • JT Nesbitt

            Ike- Are you suggesting that people who actually build vehicles are less intelligent than software engineers? — JT

            • Scott-jay

              Ret-ro! It’s JT Nesbitt, vehicle builder and natural gas – advocate.

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

              Stop moderating Wes!
              JT- Gear heads like your self will never be happy with how your craft and passions are portrayed no matter what the medium. Sorry to say, but “Dumbed” down context reaches a larger audience. Think about the “new” motorcyclist, he’ll get enough from the show to spark his interest to pursue more information on what he viewed.

              Sorry if I didn’t paint a better picture for you to enjoy.
              That excerpt at the end was taken as I was wrapping my head around all that I experienced at that moment riding the Metisse. The rest of my comment was muffled as I was taking off my helmet.

              • JT Nesbitt

                So you admit that it was dumbed-down in a quest for a wider audience?
                I am flabbergasted that you would make such an admission!! And publicly!!
                I guess that our standards must be lowered in order to reach the widest possible audience… Perhaps more accurately – your standards are lower in order to reach the widest possible audience. Well Adey, you simply cannot expect me to accept this paradigm here. This is exactly the cowardly attitude, action, and excuse that is ruining this country and the reason why I do not own a television. — JT

                • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Grant Ray

                  JT, your attack is misplaced. Adey didn’t make the call to water down the whiskey. I did.

                  Of course I want a broader audience exposed to the joy of motorcycling. If I wanted a circle jerk for grumpy old motorcycle dudes, I’d just head down to the local denim & leather bar and tip the bartender with soiled hands.

                • JT Nesbitt

                  So you admit that you watered this down. Fuck. I am without a rudder. Well, I hope that you will not extend this suspension of critical analysis to me in the future when my work is eventually reviewed on this site. I have given no quarter, and do not expect, or desire it. Your hands are soiled nonetheless.– JT

                • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

                  There is no quest. We’re not in this for fame or money. We shoot for the love of motorcycles. We showed you what we had to time to shoot. This goes back to what I said earlier about having patience and allowing us to give you more in future vids. If Yoshi had accompanied us on the ride you would have had all the vintage motorcycle banter your aluminum heart desired. Lighten up. There are no sellouts in this camp buddy.

                  BTW I found your Hulu Plus account info online. Didn’t picture you to be a fan of Master Chef.

                  lol I kid with you. Be easy…

                • http://www.youtube.com/user/Adeysworld adeysworld

                  I can say now since Grant exposed himself, that if it was up to me you’d have over 30 mins of quality Yoshi footage. I had to suck it up that day and go with the flow knowing I can do more in the future.

                  Trust that your work will represented in it’s truest form on this site. What you supply is what your audience receives. But you already know that…

                • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Grant Ray

                  “I am without a rudder.”

                  Good grief, you poor rudderless coot, you. RideApart is an 8-10 minute program with new shows produced on a 7 day turn-around and aired on a weekly rotation. Regardless of budget, consider the function of that brief amount of time in those 8-10 minutes as it relates to the telling, unfolding and conclusion of an engaging and cohesive narrative for a moment, which is about as long as an episode, and stop getting ants in your pants because you can’t get home cooking like your grandma’s gumbo at the roadside bar & grill.

                  You want homemade gumbo? Fine. Go to the source, have a seat on the porch and wait a while till it’s ready. Because no restaurant will ever be able to make food like that and you and I both know it. Quality content about motorcycles, their history, culture and the various personalities that as a whole make all of this particular lifestyle so unique and compelling, regardless of the medium, is no different.

                  Now stop all this fussing and go make some machines.

                • http://rider49er.blogspot.com Mark D [EX500]

                  If this was a “dumbed down” episode, I think that’s ok, too; these have been coming out pretty quickly, almost weekly, so toying with the formula is a good idea when you know you can always go back to more moto-centric content.

                • doublet

                  You know, people will find more information if they want to. The point is to draw them in with flashy real-life images that more easily portray experiences and feelings that others may not have even been aware of. All in ten minutes. You’ll figure out why your triumph shifts slowly when you rebuild it… if you decide to get to that point.

                  But I dunno.. I wonder what JT Nesbitt might have to say about such a thing?

                • http://www.twitter.com/wessilerfanclub Sean MacDonald (the other Sean)

                  i think the distinction needs to be made between “dumbed down” and resorting to “dumb cliches”

                  I could be wrong, but I do not get the impression that anyone, JT included, wants all of the talking to be done as technically as possible so that only the gearheads understand. i DO think we expect more than “i give props to the old guys doing this” or any of the other tired cliches that can be used to say words without actually saying anything useful.

            • ike6116

              I’m not. But if you wanted to paint with a broad brush and you asked me “in the aggregate who is smarter, a software engineer or a mechanic?” I’d answer software engineer pretty quickly.

              That’s neither here nor there though, In Life Electric: is it possible? you said “Competition is what has made America great, not intellectualism.”

              Which kind of conveniently neglects the fact that the constitution was drafted by intellectuals who loved France but again, details. This strikes me as fairly anti-intellectual

      • matt

        I stated a preference for the previous episodes, then provided input, not just criticism, for what I thought could have made this one better. You read that as whining? Calm down and act like a professional. I’m trying to be positive and helpful.

        • Tim

          Wow, lots of passion here, guess that is a good thing. People are paying attention and care. From my perspective this piece was okay, a bit of fun to pass the time. Gather any three of just about anything and, most likely, one will be better and one worse. So it is with the videos. I don’t expect them all to be home runs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate Ben W

    I appreciate that accepting criticism gracefully and gleaning value from it isn’t easy, particularly with something that you pour your heart and soul into and when people don’t sugar coat it, being able to do so is essential to long term success.

    The last thing I want is for the HFL community to become a self-congratulating, incestuous circle jerk. I’m happy to see contributions that come from a wildly different prospective, like those from cruiser fans and JT’s fairly incendiary comments above.

    • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate Ben W

      Now that I’ve watched this a few days late, I understand the perspectives going around.

      I love the idea of taking riders who have never been on bikes like these and getting some riding and thoughts in. It’s easy to relate to for me and, I suspect, for a majority of riders out there. I enjoyed the episode in that regard. Still, I expected and wanted more of Garage Company.

      This would have made for a great two-part episode. The first episode would focus on Garage Company and Yoshi. Second, what you had here, as a followup “experience” episode. Get enough footage for both bits and knock two out in one go. It’d give you more bang for your buck and more meat to the content.

      • http://hellforleathermagazine.com Grant Ray

        Yoshi was down with a bad back on the day of the shoot. You’ll notice he is wearing a brace if you watch it again. We were thankful enough for him to come in briefly and loan us the bikes.

        • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate Ben W

          Yeah, I saw that and hopefully you revisit when he’s up for it. Still, the split episode approach could easily apply to other subjects. Examples:

          The CCW episode could have gone further into the business, challenges, and such that many people requested in the comments. Then, a second episode featuring the riding experience and thoughts on their products. Obviously, HFL covered those topics in writing earlier, but Ride Apart feels like a separate entity with a greater reach.

          The Roland Sands episode could have been followed up with an episode focused on the gear he’s recently released and/or riding some of his bikes.

          Then again, informative/interview episodes are more interesting to people who are already keyed into the industry and less to a general audience. So, who knows. It’s just a thought on a way to deliver more without doubling the workload.

          JV – Hey, now, I said fairly incendiary! I don’t think they were too harsh, but clearly not everyone shares that opinion.

          • JVictor75

            Ben, I wasn’t trying to call you out – I was agreeing with you, more or less.

            • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate Ben W

              Now, see here, JV. I am outraged, offended, and I will not be talked off this ledge.

              • JVictor75

                (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ (lol)

      • JVictor75

        +1

        The only thing I can armchair quarterback is to perhaps work towards a goal of having a few episodes completed in advance.

        This way, should something happen that precludes you from telling the story you want to tell on RideApart (like having Yoshi along for the ride this time, for instance) you can go with an alternate plan. When Yoshi is feeling up to it you go back and film his part then cut and re-edit the episode.

        Personally speaking, I enjoy watching the canyon videos but would have enjoyed hearing from Yoshi a lot more. The bikes are cool, Jamie and Adey have good rapport, and of course the views/roads are stunning.

        But putting this as delicately as possible, Yoshi isn’t getting any younger, and people like him are becoming few and far between.

        JT is another, as are Scott Colosimo and James Loughead. And although JT may be “incendiary” I welcome his opinions(most of the time) because most of the time he is saying the things that I am thinking.

        • http://rider49er.blogspot.com Mark D [EX500]

          The RideApart features obvious take a lot of editing and manhours, but maybe you could advertise “more content on HFL” at the end of of videos, with less-edited outtakes/rants/b-footage, as a way to entice people over the pay wall. I don’t know if that fits with what Drive wants, though.

  • Archer

    20 minutes of nothing buy Yoshi- THAT would be worth watching (too!)

    That show was thoroughly enjoyable, and an all-Yoshi sequel would be most welcome.

    It definitely ignited an interest in vintage machines for me- wasn’t that the point?

  • ike6116

    As long as we’re flinging shit and stirring the pot there’s also the point that RideApart is not HFL content. It’s made by HFL people but free for all. It’s Drive channel content on YouTube. It’s linked here and made by the same guys but as subscribers we get nothing more than non-subscribers and one could argue are “suffering” because of the content being authored for non-subscribers

  • nick2ny

    Can the next Rideapart be all the commenters in this thread sitting around a massive table with Grant working the camera, and each of us reading our respective comments? Grant, you can narrate when it’s your turn to comment.

    • JVictor75

      Do I have to actually flip the table though?

      • http://www.facebook.com/beastincarnate Ben W

        If you don’t, I will. That’s priceless.