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	<title>Comments on: For $5,500, the most important new bikes this year</title>
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		<title>By: Stuki</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-102412</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That VFR mentioned (pre VTEC) had non-inverted suspension as well. Hardly lousy, in my memory. In fact, was it even that long ago that GP bikes had such lousy suspenders as well?

The CBR looks bloody awesome! The others look fine enough, but for some reason the CBR is the one that speaks to me aesthetically.And I generally don&#039;t much care for sport bike looks, preferring nakeds/standards (Street Triple over Daytona for example.) Perhaps that is why I like this particular &quot;softie&quot; sportbike :)

By the looks of these photos, Honda &quot;cheapened out&quot; on the X, and simply lifted it a bit in it&#039;s suspenders vs the others. They should have lowered the pegs a bit as well. The X seems intended to be the tourer of the bunch. As such, Honda should have used the taller seat to give riders more legroom. It&#039;s not like the average touring buyer needs higher pegs and more lean than the stereotypical CBR buyer. 



As it is, despite lower weight, probably equal range, lower price and exhaust placement that is not plain silly for a street based bike for luggage intenders, I&#039;d still likely spring for the Vstrom if multi hour trips were on the menu. But what do I know, maybe Honda figured there&#039;s not many adventure bikes out there for people with shorter legs (I&#039;ve got 32.5&quot; inseams)


Now we can just hope these bikes are &quot;dull&quot; enough to fly under the radar of the &quot;badasses&quot; who are so desperate to show off what cool bikes their lowlife selves can afford, that they create a strong market for stolen ones. No matter how light, fast and trick, a bike that is to be used for daily transportation, is pretty handicapped if one can park it anywhere for fear of thieves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That VFR mentioned (pre VTEC) had non-inverted suspension as well. Hardly lousy, in my memory. In fact, was it even that long ago that GP bikes had such lousy suspenders as well?</p>
<p>The CBR looks bloody awesome! The others look fine enough, but for some reason the CBR is the one that speaks to me aesthetically.And I generally don&#8217;t much care for sport bike looks, preferring nakeds/standards (Street Triple over Daytona for example.) Perhaps that is why I like this particular &#8220;softie&#8221; sportbike :)</p>
<p>By the looks of these photos, Honda &#8220;cheapened out&#8221; on the X, and simply lifted it a bit in it&#8217;s suspenders vs the others. They should have lowered the pegs a bit as well. The X seems intended to be the tourer of the bunch. As such, Honda should have used the taller seat to give riders more legroom. It&#8217;s not like the average touring buyer needs higher pegs and more lean than the stereotypical CBR buyer. </p>
<p>As it is, despite lower weight, probably equal range, lower price and exhaust placement that is not plain silly for a street based bike for luggage intenders, I&#8217;d still likely spring for the Vstrom if multi hour trips were on the menu. But what do I know, maybe Honda figured there&#8217;s not many adventure bikes out there for people with shorter legs (I&#8217;ve got 32.5&#8243; inseams)</p>
<p>Now we can just hope these bikes are &#8220;dull&#8221; enough to fly under the radar of the &#8220;badasses&#8221; who are so desperate to show off what cool bikes their lowlife selves can afford, that they create a strong market for stolen ones. No matter how light, fast and trick, a bike that is to be used for daily transportation, is pretty handicapped if one can park it anywhere for fear of thieves.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Poorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Poorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truehondafans, You do realize that the base price on a CBR600RR is LITERALLY DOUBLE the price of one of these bikes right? For $5500-$7000ish, you aren&#039;t gonna get much faster than that. Except for (fill in the name of bike that is NOT imported to the USA). Duke 390 comes to mind, but it looks like they were just teasing us when they said it would come here this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truehondafans, You do realize that the base price on a CBR600RR is LITERALLY DOUBLE the price of one of these bikes right? For $5500-$7000ish, you aren&#8217;t gonna get much faster than that. Except for (fill in the name of bike that is NOT imported to the USA). Duke 390 comes to mind, but it looks like they were just teasing us when they said it would come here this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Truehondafans</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-99944</link>
		<dc:creator>Truehondafans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all you will be very disappointed with CBR500R as a sports bike. It have lousy front suspension (not inverted type) and useless digital display. The sub-frames looks very cheap. The CBR500R comes with a low compression cylinder and it comes with low horse power( I expect 60HP with a 500cc). After I seen the real CBR500R at the Thai expo I really feel very down because I am expecting more from Honda even it was manufacture in Thailand plant like the NSR150RR( nice 2-stroke small Cc). I myself have ridden NSR150RR, CBR400RR, NSR250 MC28 and RVF400 NC35. It was a true disappointment from Honda comparing the Bikes that I have ridden and it&#039;s weight to power ratio! Get CBR600RR instead don&#039;t waste time because when you ride a sports bike you will eventually go down to track CBR500R needs heavy modifications just to have some fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all you will be very disappointed with CBR500R as a sports bike. It have lousy front suspension (not inverted type) and useless digital display. The sub-frames looks very cheap. The CBR500R comes with a low compression cylinder and it comes with low horse power( I expect 60HP with a 500cc). After I seen the real CBR500R at the Thai expo I really feel very down because I am expecting more from Honda even it was manufacture in Thailand plant like the NSR150RR( nice 2-stroke small Cc). I myself have ridden NSR150RR, CBR400RR, NSR250 MC28 and RVF400 NC35. It was a true disappointment from Honda comparing the Bikes that I have ridden and it&#8217;s weight to power ratio! Get CBR600RR instead don&#8217;t waste time because when you ride a sports bike you will eventually go down to track CBR500R needs heavy modifications just to have some fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Tad</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-96493</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that there is a resurgence in &quot;common sense&quot; bikes that are fun to ride. But I wish these entry level bikes had a little more to offer than say a 1987 Kawasaki EX500 (which I love BTW).  Yes they do have fuel injection, but not much different than what was available 25 years ago.  How much is a used Ninja 500??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that there is a resurgence in &#8220;common sense&#8221; bikes that are fun to ride. But I wish these entry level bikes had a little more to offer than say a 1987 Kawasaki EX500 (which I love BTW).  Yes they do have fuel injection, but not much different than what was available 25 years ago.  How much is a used Ninja 500??</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-96492</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really hoping there&#039;s a big aftermarket/tuning community once these come out.  

I ride a 25 year old CBR 600F (Hurricane) which I love dearly, so I was frustrated when the new &quot;F&quot; model didn&#039;t come stateside.  The RRs just have never been comfortable like the Fs.  

When you guys first scooped these 500s I held out hope they would come in in the 65-70hp range (my bike being 85ish from the factory).  

I fully understand (respect, love, and agree with) the logic behind the bike they&#039;re releasing... but if I can&#039;t squeak out just a little bit more oomph I&#039;ll be back in the market for the right F4I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really hoping there&#8217;s a big aftermarket/tuning community once these come out.  </p>
<p>I ride a 25 year old CBR 600F (Hurricane) which I love dearly, so I was frustrated when the new &#8220;F&#8221; model didn&#8217;t come stateside.  The RRs just have never been comfortable like the Fs.  </p>
<p>When you guys first scooped these 500s I held out hope they would come in in the 65-70hp range (my bike being 85ish from the factory).  </p>
<p>I fully understand (respect, love, and agree with) the logic behind the bike they&#8217;re releasing&#8230; but if I can&#8217;t squeak out just a little bit more oomph I&#8217;ll be back in the market for the right F4I.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Evans</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-96491</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have the cash, you just found yourself a perfect winter project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have the cash, you just found yourself a perfect winter project.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Steever</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-96490</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Steever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridden both, extensively, back-to-back.

The Tiger has more engine but doesn&#039;t feel or perform like it does. It does sound better though.

The Tiger has a bit more controlled, sportier suspension. Brakes, accessories, comfort, features, all pretty much a tie.

SV and DL twins easily last past 100,000 miles. Never seen a Triumph go into six figures.

Suzuki service rates are significantly cheaper, and service shops are easier to find.

In short, the Tiger is a little sportier and is the better motorcycle by a very small margin, but not nearly enough to justify the purchase price or running costs.

Okay, maybe you are right, maybe it is just the DL&#039;s value... but i think if you have two apples, and one costs 25% more, it had better be a damn good apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridden both, extensively, back-to-back.</p>
<p>The Tiger has more engine but doesn&#8217;t feel or perform like it does. It does sound better though.</p>
<p>The Tiger has a bit more controlled, sportier suspension. Brakes, accessories, comfort, features, all pretty much a tie.</p>
<p>SV and DL twins easily last past 100,000 miles. Never seen a Triumph go into six figures.</p>
<p>Suzuki service rates are significantly cheaper, and service shops are easier to find.</p>
<p>In short, the Tiger is a little sportier and is the better motorcycle by a very small margin, but not nearly enough to justify the purchase price or running costs.</p>
<p>Okay, maybe you are right, maybe it is just the DL&#8217;s value&#8230; but i think if you have two apples, and one costs 25% more, it had better be a damn good apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Core</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-96489</link>
		<dc:creator>Core</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really dig the Honda CB500X.</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-96488</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too many are stuck in the $15K slow bike days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too many are stuck in the $15K slow bike days.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>/2012/11/for-5500-the-most-important-new-bikes-this-year/#comment-96487</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think value is the only reason to pick a wee-strom over a Tiger 800.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think value is the only reason to pick a wee-strom over a Tiger 800.</p>
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