RideApart 24: 2 guys, 1 bike

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Last week, we presented a very positive message about motorcycles as practical, efficient, congestion-reducing transportation. This week, we wanted to illustrate to all of DRIVE’s car nerds just how fun the damn things are. Matt Farah, from Tuned and The Smoking Tire hauls his 270lbs frame onto the back of a 2013 Honda CBR1000RR with Jamie and holds on for dear life…

  • http://www.facebook.com/davidyarica.freire DavidyArica Freire

    Dang, this makes me want to move back to Cali! Awesome vid.

  • Corey

    God, the 80′s-duo-sitcom saxophone killed me!

  • Emmet

    He’s a big guy-what bike does he ride in LA?

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Matt had an SV650 for a minute or two, but sold it when his mom found out.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jonny.chavez Juanito Del Consuelo Chavez

        Is he going to get grounded when she finds out that he has a 500hp car?

        • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

          Most likely. You should listen to the podcast we did.

      • Dux

        Why won’t his mom make him shave?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Sweeney/501437288 Scott Sweeney

    I always tell my passenger “be the backpack.” Just imagine you are my backpack.

    I find if I tell an inexperienced passenger to lean into the corners with me, they over think it and lean when they think they should instead of just flowing naturally and following my lead.

    • http://twitter.com/KeyserBroze JB

      I usually tell them just to relax and look over whichever shoulder is on the inside of the turn. That way they don’t try to lean into the curve with me and it breaks the instinct to counter lean.

  • alex

    Is there a place to sign up for shotgun with Jaime? :P he’s a really nice guy and I bet he could do a fair bit for charitable donations.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Ha, you don’t want to sign up. As someone who’s lived through the experience, believe me when I say that.

      • alex

        I bet it’s not that bad, still though Christian Bales getting pretty good on a street bike so maybe I can get a little higher on the ladder de stars for my 50 bux :P

  • Porter

    You know what, putting 270 on the back of a sportbike isn’t any more stupid than putting your 115 pound girlfriend on the back. The F1 car on an F1 car analogy is perfect. It’s a stupid, stupid idea.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Bikes are made to carry passengers, most are actually quite good at it.

      • Porter

        Some bikes are made to carry passengers. Putting a strip of vinyl and .25 inches of padding behind the seat of a streetable race bike doesn’t make it “good” at carrying passengers. I will forever maintain that riding bitch on a sportbike is dumb.

        • Dux

          It’s really not that difficult.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mitchel.durnell Mitchel Durnell

            Depends. Had a pillion that leaned with me and didn’t outweigh me – easy peasy. Had a pillion that anchored in turns and outweighed me – not fun at all.

          • Porter

            It’s not that I think it’s too difficult. Sportbikes aren’t made with passengers in mind. Sure, they do a decent job of making it possible, but that doesn’t mean it’s something you want to do everyday.

            • KeithB

              I’m with Porter on this one.
              If I need to ride 2 up with my wife, it’s my ST1100 I would use not the Hawk NT650

  • BryonCLewis

    been riding my b-king for 4 years and I still would never put someone on the back of it, even if she weighed 90lbs, the seat is almost 7 inches above mine and i dont want to be responsible for someone elses life, when i get a cruiser it will be a different story.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Try it sometime. Really special thing, taking a nice young lady for a ride.

      • Dux

        They usually like it, and they can’t yap at you! Have done 3600km two-up on the old ’87 CBR, it was great.

        • BryonCLewis

          still, I’m 5’6″ with a bike that has a 31″ seat height and weighs over 500lbs dry, when I get something lower/lighter I’ll do it on that.

      • el_jefe

        Indeed it is.

        Last summer the lady and I went out our first long, multi day ride. At one point after coming down a mountain pass with several switch backs I said to her “i don’t feel your hands, what are you holding on to?” Her reply “oh nothing, they are just sitting on my knees.” Talk about relaxed passenger…

    • http://twitter.com/TheVeeTwin Damo Von Maciel

      I would argue that a cruiser is more dangerous, as it wont turn, stop or accelerate out of danger anywhere near as fast as the B-King (love that bike, btw).

      I took the wife on my aprilia RSV mille all the time, I just rode more conservatively than if I was out for a solo sport ride.

  • http://twitter.com/jpmoretti Jonathan Moretti

    Hey Wes. This may not be the right spot, but wondering about a good starter. Listened to the podcast, and like those new Honda 250s, but I’m Matt’s size. I’m afraid I can’t really go to far on one of those.

    I’ve been thinking of the new 500s or restoring an old xl600r… Any opinions?

    • http://twitter.com/TheVeeTwin Damo Von Maciel

      Just wanted to chime in. Any of the new Honda 250cc series will pull you just fine and be comfortable. I am 6’2″ 195lbs and my wife is just shy of six feet and we ride two up on her 2012 CBR250R all the time. I have done several 110+ mile trips with her riding on the back and was able to keep it at 80 miles per hour on the highway no problem.

      Hope this helps.

      • http://www.twitter.com/seanmacdonald sean macdonald

        the new ninja 300′s, even though only 50cc more, are a much noticeable difference above the 250cc class and are worth looking at.

        • TP

          especially since its 2 cylinder

        • http://twitter.com/TheVeeTwin Damo Von Maciel

          The ninja 300 has more meat to it, for sure. I have heard nothing but great things about. (I’ll have to test ride one in the spring at the local Kawasaki dealer) I am not wild about the price point though. You can get the new CB500F for only $300 more.

          • http://www.twitter.com/seanmacdonald sean macdonald

            sounds like a win/win to me.

  • WillYall

    Great episode, Jamie seems really natural in this one.

    • Kr Tong

      Yeah I crack up every time Jamie goes into his announcer voice.

  • Josh

    What jacket is Matt wearing?

    • Eric Shay

      Looks like Alpinestars Messenger.

      • Josh

        Yeah I think you’re right. Anybody seen one or tried one on? Seems like a decent jacket for the price

        • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

          That price level at Astars isn’t great.

          • http://twitter.com/TheVeeTwin Damo Von Maciel

            As second jacket (for foul weather) I think is does the trick nicely. My main jacket is a fully armored Vanson Mark II Cobra, which I do have the optional cold weather liner for. The race fit on the Vanson prevents me from layering enough clothes to suffer a sub 40 degree F ride. The Messenger is great and reasonably priced waterproof jacket. For me the fit was much better than the Icon Raiden gear and a crap load cheaper.

          • Josh

            Whatever happened to you guys’ story about adding armor to regular clothes?

            • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

              That ball was dropped.

              • socalutilityrider

                I’d love to see any article on this subject/that type gear. Especially given the funny looks I just got showing up for an appointment in La Jolla and changing clothes on the curb.

              • Josh

                Worse things have happened. You guys still get credit for being the reason I’m looking for a jacket with some armor. Keep it up

        • http://twitter.com/TheVeeTwin Damo Von Maciel

          My Alpinestars Messenger is my favorite raw weather/water proof jacket. They run pretty true to size. I am 6’2″ 195lbs and I large is nice and snug with the winter liner in. The jacket also fits all the Alpinestars Bionic Armor that Wes is so fond of.

          I live in Massachusetts and I have put it through all manner of awful weather and I still love it. (Scored mine on amazon for $105 off a closeout deal!)

  • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.newton.140 Aaron Newton

    True story… i was on a ride with a friend of mine in the middle of Alaska, and i gotten a flat tire. We had two choices, call for a truck to come pick up the bike(3+ hour wait) or ride on the back if my friends ZX-12. seeing how it was already 2 AM and and i had to be at work at 7 AM i decided to ride on the back. now keep in mind my friend is a very large man, and weighs about 260 pounds, i’m not exactly small myself, about weigh 200 pounds. i will say 2 large men on one bike was an experience to say the least. hopefully i never have to do it again

  • FutureMan

    What jacket is Jamie wearing here?

    • http://www.facebook.com/zack.klyza Zack Klyza

      I’m keen to know too

  • MotoDork

    Amazing show! 2 up is the only way to move around Bogota. I live in Colombia and getting around town for dinner or a beer is a nightmare, public transportation sucks, traffic is unbelievably dense and distances are not walkable… Took a friend out for dinner last night, it was the first time she rode a bike in the city and she was giggling all the way to and back from the restaurant.

  • Kr Tong

    You guys need to do one of those supertight autocross gymkhana courses and put Matt on the back.

  • Slothrop

    Matt’s expression is just like when you see a dog with their head sticking out of the pickup window…

  • http://twitter.com/JackNorton8064 Jack Norton

    Wow – took me 7 minutes to realise that was the ‘new’ CBR thou!

    RideApart is essential viewing for me – always puts a smile on my face one way or another. Good stuff.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tom.zipprian Tommy Zipprian

      New wheels are a dead giveaway.

  • kpfaaland

    Is that the Kriega R15 or R20? I’m looking for a commuter/weekend backpack, which one of them would you recommend?