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Racer R-Safe Motorcycle Gloves

The Racer R-Safe Motorcycle Gloves are the Austrian companies fanciest racing gloves, designed to provide the maximum possible protection for your hands and wrists, while still delivery excellent feel and control.

The Gear
Made from goat skin (stronger than cow leather) chassis and a Kangaroo skin palm (stronger and thinner than cow leather), these race gauntlets are equipped with plastic armor on the knuckles, fingers, outside of the wrist and on the heel and side of the palm. Highly abrasion-resistant Superfabric is added to the heel and side of the palm, running all the way the outside if the pinky fingers.

These aren’t hugely ventilated gloves, but there are small air intakes in the knuckle armor and the top of the hand and bottom of the wrists are perforated.

Suede inserts with a rubberized pattern are included at the base of the fingers and on your pointer and middle fingers, aiding grip on the controls.

The $260 R-Safes are direct competition for other mega-safe race gloves like the $300 Alpinestars GP-Techs and $350 Dainese Full Metal RS.

Racer R-Safe Motorcycle Gloves

What’s New
Where the Racer gloves differ from products offered by more established brands is in the fitment of three Knox scaphoid protectors and palm sliders to each glove. While both the GP-Techs and Full Metals have some plastic in this area, they provide nowhere near the coverage of the R-Safe’s palm armor.

Now, I’ve crashed quite a few times and, in each incident, my hands have been the first thing to touch the ground. I’d like to think I’ve learned a thing or two about glove safety in the process.

In none of my crashes has knuckle or finger armor done anything for me. Why? Well, it’s not like you’re punching the ground when you fall off. Instead, you (or at least I) reach out instinctively to break the fall, impacting the ground first with the base of your palm.

That’s potentially very bad, a) because it directs impact forces straight into your wrist (which is why I’ve broken mine five times) and b) at the base of your palm lives a little bone called the scaphoid, to which the body provides very poor blood flow. Should you break it, at best it’s going to take a very long time to heal. At worst, it wont’ ever heal at all.

Racer’s heavy use of palm sliders goes farther than any other race glove to attenuate impact forces to that area. The thick plastic sliders shouldn’t just protect the scaphoid, by preventing the base of your palm from “grabbing” the pavement, they could turn a hard impact into a soft slide, reducing the odds of injury further up the wrist and arm. In my opinion, that’s a far better solution to injury prevention than a bunch of hard plastic on top of your hand, an area that’s far less likely to sustain heavy impacts in an accident.

Racer R-Safe Motorcycle Gloves
Racer R-Safe Motorcycle Gloves in action at Imola.

The Good
Impact protection where you need it most, and everywhere any other glove provides it too.

Racer pushes “fit” as its USP and like all the other Racer Gloves we’ve tried, the R-Safe fits exceptionally well, holding your fingers tightly with no bunching and no “webbing” between them.

While all that palm protection initially feels like it may impede control, you stop noticing it once you climb on the bike, grip the bars and start riding. It doesn’t get in the way at all.

Feel through the thin kangaroo skin palms is excellent.

Quality is superb. Matching, if not even exceeding that of the more expensive Italian alternatives.

Racer R-Safe Motorcycle Gloves

The Bad
Like the Racer Sicuros, the R-Safe gloves are subject to Racer’s gross overuse of branding. In this case, a giant chrome ‘R’ adorns the wrist cuffs.

When unsecured (as when putting the gloves on), the wrist retention strap falls out of its holder and it can be difficult to re-locate while now wearing clunky race gauntlets.

Summer ventilation won’t be the best.

The Verdict
In our opinion these are the safest set of race gauntlets available. The R-Safe also offers excellent comfort and control, all at a lower price point than the competition. We’d feel confident crashing a motorcycle at high speed in these.

Related Links:
More Affordable Racers: Racer Sicuro Motorcycle Gloves Review
Pick the Right Pair: How To Find The Right Motorcycle Gloves
Start Here: A Beginner’s Guide To Motorcycle Gear

  • Jhon Alexander

    Totally agree with these being the best overall model. Racer is a great brand!….Just one point of contention when referring to the Dainese or A-Stars, “mega-safe”—No such thing unless there is an independent metric or test to go by…if marketing bulletpoints direct from the company is the only info available, then it’s not reliable, it has to be verified somehow. That’s what the CE ratings are for….dainese and A-stars don’t have the rating…they either failed at abrasion resistance or impact resistance or both,,not even close to mega-safe. “replace “CE rated” with “ECE” rated for helmets and you get the idea….also “CE 2″ is the real rating….caution if you see something listed only as “CE 1″.. this rating require abrasion or impact protection….and use caution when you see “CE rated”…this is usually code for ‘CE 1″.

    • Gerardo Astroball

      Which gloves ar CE 2 rated? (can you list a few?)

      • Jhon Alexander

        Yes, but unfortunately not very many… Halvarssons in the UK has a winter model called “safety grip pro”. Racer also has a few models…but those are also probably the cold weather models as well. You’d have to do a bit of homework with them unfortunately, they classify some as “CE 2″ and some as just “CE”, which means they could be “level 1″ and you don’t want that…I would suggest emailing them and asking them which are specifically level 2 as those are the only one that require the abrasion/impact protection..,, everything else is just an overpriced driving glove with a gauntlet.

    • Aakash

      Good points.

  • Ryan

    I’ve been happy with my Knox Handroids, which have a lot of the same features at a similar price. The aesthetic is obviously different, but works for those of us that love old Star Trek episodes with the Borg.

    • Ben W

      Same with the Biomechs – slightly less futuristic looking, but very comparable safety features and more ventilation. What I have noticed is that, in the last year, the Biomechs were updated. The palm leather is far less supple than earlier models (like mine), to the point of seeming cheap, and the perforation holes are almost half the size they used to be.

      Another fantastic glove with the Knox scaphoid system – RS Taichi’s GP Evo gloves. Personally, I wish I’d bought those in place of the Biomechs. They subjectively look better, feel better, and the huge cuff on the Biomechs can be a real hassle with certain gear & watch combinations.

      Weird thing with these Racer gloves is that they use an extra slider versus what you see anywhere else. I wonder if that’s just a move at appearing more protective (“We got THREE!”) or if there’s much legitimacy to it.

  • UrbanMoto

    I’ve come close to pulling the trigger on Sicuro’s a half dozen times. I NEED new gloves, I WANT to buy some Racers, but I’ll be DAMNED if I’m going to be a billboard with the 32,000 instances of the word Racer on the Sicuros, OR the stupid huge RACER across my wrist on these models.

    You feature Racer plenty, Wes. Do you ever get a chance to talk some sense to them about this absurd logo junk across their otherwise stellar products? (If I were looking for track gloves I wouldn’t care; I need gloves that don’t make me look like a logo-dork around town.)

    • imprezive

      It’s even worse since the brand is Racer. I could see that drawing some negative police attention.

    • Michael Howard

      Exactly. Their gloves could be the best, least expensive ones on the market but that huge “Racer” on the gauntlet would prevent me from wearing them on the street. I’d wager a guess that hurts their sales more than helps them. Maybe they could change the branding to something less poser-esque like “Badass”, “God’s Gift to Women”, or “Huge Penis”. ;)

    • UrbanMoto

      After looking into it, I’m liking the looks of the Velocity Gear Exhibition Pros. Black, minimal logos, short gauntlet, EN 13594, and $129. All sounds good to me. I’d love to get Racers, but given the logo situation, these might do. And the price is pretty good. Anybody have any experience with Velocity Gear? http://www.highvelocitygear.com/expro.html

  • Khali

    I have been using racing gloves with Knox scaphoid protectors for a year and half now. Bought them for 70 euro from a local Spanish Brand:

    http://www.racingboutique.com/web/images/products/guantes/GuanteGP_RB02.jpg

    They feel like the most protective thing ever, and the scaphoid sliders do really work, they get all the scratches and mostly avoid the leather touching the asphalt, so after a fall you can still use the gloves :)

    Mine arent made from such fancy materials, but are still very good quality for their price.

  • Gerardo Astroball

    Wes, what do you think of the Rev’it Jerez?

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Really nice gloves, but the cuff is pretty short, there’s not much impact protection for the wrist and that hard metal palm armor doesn’t really cover the center of your palm, where you impact.

      • Gerardo Astroball

        thanks!

  • Justin McClintock

    Don’t have any experience with Racer, but I’m a huge fan of the sliders on the base of the gloves. My only semi-serious get-off, I’m sure the sliders on my gloves protected me from breaking my wrist. Not sure I ever want another pair of gloves without them.

  • Ceol Mor

    I’ve had experience with a previous version of Racer gloves (Racer “High End”) and found them to be well constructed in addition to offering a host of pretty good features – they were great gloves. I’ve since moved on to Held Phantom gauntlets and find them superior to the Racer gloves in every way. I believe Racer may have changed ownership since the “High End” model came out (at least US distribution has) and the new models might be even better than the last generation, but I honestly can’t believe they’re built as meticulously or solidly as my Helds.

    • Bram

      Racer gloves are really well made and the fit was good, but I place immeasurable faith in my Held Phantoms.

      • Jhon Alexander

        Your faith is then in Marketing,..nowhere in their materials do they mention how they test their gloves for safety…which they won’t because they didn’t pass..

        • Bram

          Have you ever considered reigning in your contempt and replacing it with a bit of constructive thought?
          I have worn and raced in Racer gloves and I currently wear Held Phantoms and have done so for a while now because they fit me well, have great feel and most importantly they have stood up to 4 big offs this year alone on the track and one on the roads. One of these off had my right hand held under the bike as we slid off the track and they didn’t wear through. I high sided in another pair landing hand first and unlike several pairs of my old Alpinestars gp gloves, they have yet to burst open. The only reason I went for the Held gloves at first was because I totalled my Racer gloves and I needed a pair for my next race as I forgot my other gloves and a buddy gave me his Phantoms which instantly felt perfect for me.
          Try and troll with a bit of information to add some weight behind your bark because you clearly don’t know what you are on about.
          Next you’ll be trying to convince me that my Daytona Evo’s are just hipster retro and offer no safety features at all.

          • Jhon Alexander

            Apologies for seemingly harsh commentary Bram. i see how it can be misconstrued as trolling…not my intention. However, I’m the wrong person to tell that I don’t know exactly what I’m talking about. I ride and race constantly. I’ve done quite extensive research in terms of glove safety. the misinformation everyone seems to rely on comes straight from the manufacturers. No accidents are alike, one day you’ll survive with only a few scrapes, the next time it may be an entire hand fracture. Or your fingertips will burst. UK Abrasion standards are meant to replicate real world worst case scenarios. CE tests abrasion by using an impact sander. 3 seconds is all that’s required to pass, it equals to about12ft of sliding. 99% of gloves out there have failed. I’m sure if you bought a helmet without a Snell, ECE or even a DOT rating, you’d have a few good falls without incident…but would you buy them without those ratings?…I think not. Replace ECE for CE and you’ll get the point. The fact that you haven’t had a major incident without safety rated gloves is luck for the most part.

            To elaborate on your assertion that I don’t know what I’m talking about, I have all the credentials you need. Full disclosure, I’m working with one of the largest work glove manufacturers in Canada. I have my own company and test we are making true safety rated moto gloves. this is why I have to do so much research. I’ve been to all the testing labs (SATRA) where these tests are conducted and have seen firsthand the results of a REAL worst case scenario. I can leo provide you with many examples of Pro-racers who’ve seen the wrong side of a slide. I constantly speak with other industry pro’s on their gloves and i can tell you, they hardly know any of the required safety features either. I have e-mails where ome of those companies you mention and love so much didn’t even know there was a standard or refuse to recognize there is. Most of that cash you put down is for marketing and fancy sounding materials, not safety testing.

            I’ve mentioned on another post that Halvarsson’s and Racers actually do have models which are safety rated “safety grip pro” and a few others by racer. I normally don’t make any mention of my own company here because it might be slightly tasteless. I just have a disdain for misinformation on the part of the manufacturers making everyone take it hook line and sinker.

            if you’d like some examples of some pro-GP racer accident’s I’d be glad to provide you with those…furthermore if you’d like my company info, i’d be glad to e-mail you those as well..not on this venue however,,,this is a RideApart forum and I’d like to respect that.

            To your point on the Daytona Evo’s. I haven’t looked into them but there is a motorcycle boot safety standard,,,,I suggest you look up if they pass or not and make your own judgment from there..basing safety from looks for biased marketing points will only end up with you in the hospital with some pretty boots on.

            Thanks Bram,,and again ,,no hard feelings please don’t take this as harsh commentary :)

            • Bram

              Thanks for the sincere reply and sadly it is easy to jump the gun on people online, hence why I rarely comment and I apologise for for making an assumption.
              Personally I am not one to run out and check the safety rating on the gear I wear. I’ve been bouncing around lots of paddocks all over Europe since 95 and I tend to go with what I see and hear works. Nothing is going to offer definitive protection in a fall and as you aptly said, every off is different. I’ve gone from being superstitious about my gear (only wearing Alpinestars until I had several burst)) to becoming a bit more practical about it over time, but I want something that is as safe as houses and feels right to me. A lot of that is psychological and a lot of that comes from seeing guys come off and telling me about how good they were afterwards or my own experience. I could be wrapped up in the best unobtanium leathers, lid etc. but if I have no faith in it then it is a hindrance and I choose to wear Held Phantoms. Of my friends that I race with on the circuit and the roads that choose them, do so because they work damn well and we can be a fussy bunch to please.
              If you want to market your gloves then you will need to look beyond just the certifications that you can slap on them. They need to work and to be proven to do so to a high standard outside of the lab. Racing is one way to go about that. A certification means very little to me because it sets a minimum standard for companies to aim for and construct their product accordingly so, but the dearth of certified types of tests out there are not uniform and it gives one the inclination that the lack of unity in this area means that whilst one company passes in this country could mean that it fails in another and vice versa. So which one of them is getting it right?
              I am not for one second knocking the CE standard or any credible safety standard, but I am always wary. No test is perfect and no two crashes are them same. For me it is my experience and those I know and trust that counts. We’ve all fallen foul of the marketing hype at one stage or another. Once bitten twice shy.
              I apologise for the snide boot comment. I have given away lots of free boots over the years to friends. I will only wear Daytona.
              Oh and as for the major accidents. I have had too many and far too many permanent injuries from head to toe.

              • Jhon Alexander

                I think we completely agree on exactly the same things Bram!…thanks for seeing through to my explanation…since comments don’t necessarily have a face attached, context is obscured. I get that all the time with my horrible texting skills :)

                I find a good similarity between what you see in the paddocks and what i hear from all the companies i interact with. I also visit racing garages and so forth, what I hear is “well, they feel great and they look safe, so that’s why I wear them”…whenever I speak to manufacturers they revert back to the racers “our riders have worn them and they rate them pretty high”…(A-Stars was the most hilarious with their responses) the riders are usually rating the comfort, dexterity and finger articulation you get from the gloves. Unless they’re constantly falling off the bike in the same exact fashion hundreds of times, there’s no way they can know how safe something is..they probably wouldn’t be racing either lol

                the only way to know how something performs is in a controlled environment with tests that replicate common circumstances. you’re completely right that it’s one thing to be in the lab, and completely another when in the real world. the truth is, no one i’ve spoken to ever concerns themselves with safety certification. in a store, they look at how badass the gloves look, they see all the awesome ad copy…and they assume the safety comes with it. this is the same reason you see a ton of guys wearing the German style novelty half-lids knowing full well they’ll get their faces torn off if they were ever to fall. they’ve been lucky so far, but it only takes that one really bad fall for them to get the idea. then one of two things happen, they either put ALL the gear they can find, after the fact …or they just stop riding altogether.

                there aren’t that many ratings when it comes to gloves, I’m not too sure what you’re referring to.. there are CE ratings specific to work gloves, chemical handling, heat/thermal and so forth…there is only one specific motorcycle rating and it is specific to motorcycle gloves. FYI, there used to be a french standard (PPE level 1)..but that was unified into the now CE 1 and CE1 standards just this year. Held’s were level 1…CE1 does not require abrasion/impact protection so it’s garbage. CE 2 is what used to be “13594″…but the CE was forced to incorporate the french standard to make everything less confusing. in my opinion it just made things worse. now, after this year, every manufacturer that failed the tests will be labeling their gloves “CE”..giving people the assumption that it’s CE2,,when they are not.

                in terms of abrasion protection…in my company, we tried out many different laminates, including leather…the problem with leather is that the softer and more supple the hide…the more apt it is to rupture, this is why the more expensive gloves are sometimes the worst. the gloves I mentioned from Halvarssons and Racer that are CE2 rated are both winter models…they pass standards testing because of the added winter padding, this also makes them much less dextrous, making them a bad choice for track or summer racers..meaning the only choice is unrated gloves. standards are indeed starting points…I can only tell you what I do on my end…in my company we take that starting point and go even further,,,if only top of hand impact protection is required, we put impact protection on the palm,,falls don’t only happen on the knuckle…fractures are mostly palm related so we put a hard impact slider there.

                We however, are using synthetic mixes to come up with something that works for all seasons, gives you the dexterity and articulation you need, protects further than the CE ratings require and look great to boot…not to mention we’re also making them tactical rated for heat/thermal protection. this might sound unneeded, but in an extended slide, there is a huge amount of heat friction created, so this helps on that front.

                we’re doing short cuff first since this is our first go at it,,then we’re moving on to racing gauntlets that feature hyperextension protection,for those hand and finger first impacts.

                Good luck with everything Bram!..great conversation :)
                Jhon

                • Piglet2010

                  I have what happens when people crash in the relatively simple gloves from Lee Parks Design and Aerostich (neither certified by any standard as far as I know), and would be completely confident in either for use at the track. Standards have their place, but I remain unconvinced by the usefulness of some.

                • Jhon Alexander

                  Hi Piglet 2010,
                  I’m fortunate enough to have never fallen yet, but studying up on all the cases both recent and past, I know enough to wear the best equipment available. Call me when you can clearly see your buddy’s muscle and ligaments through the glove or are in the hospital yourself getting skin grafted to the tips of your fingers. I’ve researched many slo-mo videos and realized that during most falls “hand first” impacts happen less frequently than body first…you mostly hit with the body and try to slow yourself down with your hands, thus the burst fingertips. when you do have a palm down impact you and your wallet will feel it. I’ve also analyzed GP videos,,look at some compilations of falls during GP races, you’ll see the first thing many racers do is pull up their hands due to the harsh friction caused by a 100ft slide. you haven’t had a true hand down fall yet, your success and safety isn’t attributed to these unrated gloves, consider yourself fortunate.

                  let me give you some context by using your own quote if I may.

                  “I have what happens when people crash in the relatively simple half helmets from blank and blank (neither certified by any standard as far as I know), and would be completely confident in either for use at the track. Standards have their place, but I remain unconvinced by the usefulness of some.”

                  Here’s some examples of what I’m talking about:

                  1. Cal Crutchlow lost the tip of his left pinky when his hand was trapped under his bars during a crash.

                  2. John Hopkins (Broken finger testing @ Philip island Jan’12 then a Broken hand Feb ’12).

                  3. Jorge Lorenzo lost the tip of his finger (trapped under handlebars, was later reattached) was at 200 km/h, slowed slightly before his impact with the ground at an
                  acceleration of over 10g.

                • Piglet2010

                  Your half-helmet analogy is poor in logic and insulting as a debating tactic; therefore I will not respond to the rest of your post.

                  However, you are wise not to post the name of your company.

                • Jhon Alexander

                  Interesting. Please elaborate and explain my poor analogy, i’d love to hear you out. the poor logic is in the fact that you would purchase a helmet based on a safety standard but neglect any other part of the body is at the very least interesting. there are standards for every part bit of kit, I’m willing to bet you’re wearing a potpourri of stuff that is and isn’t. Don’t debate me unless you’re willing to back it up with facts and studies, you have no basis for any of your choices other than misguided assumptions about safety.

                  my choice not to post my company is out of respect for the Rideapart forum, if you’d like to know my company i have no problem in giving it to you, I have facts.

                  Thanks,
                  Jhon

                • UrbanMoto

                  Other vendors participate here using their company name (See Kriega reviews) and no one seems to have a problem with it. I don’t see the issue, if you are actively participating and not just spamming/flogging your stuff.

                • Jhon Alexander

                  Thanks UM,,see reply above :)
                  John

                • http://www.twitter.com/seanmacdonald sean macdonald

                  Hey Jhon,

                  We appreciate it when our readers try and respect the amazing community we’ve been fortunate to cultivate here, but you sound like a guy doing it right. In fact, you actually sound like a guy we’d like to interview and who’s products we’d like to review.

                  Feel free to divulge whatever information about yourself that you feel comfortable with and thanks for bringing a ton of helpful information in such a respectful manner (both to us and anyone who may disagree with you).

                  Thanks,
                  S

                • Jhon Alexander

                  Hi Sean,

                  Info is below. Thanks for understanding by the way. I also hope Wes doesn’t think I was trolling this post, I love Wes’ content and wouldn’t antagonize you guys! Sometimes i just feel strongly enough about certain details that I have to vent. Wes has interviewed me on our helmet project a while back, so I might ring a bell. We’re bringing the gloves out in order to work our way up to the helmet, it’s just going to take an obscene amount of money to do it ourselves, so we’re starting small. But we prefer to do it right, from the beginning.

                  Not mixing company business with personal thoughts on various subjects is just kind of a personal choice, not really much to it. As hard as It is to believe, I don’t like being subjective in terms of my opinions on products, or pushing my own stuff within personal company. I just looks low class and unprofessional in my opinion. I will definitely give props whenever it is justly deserved. Halvarssons and Racer are definitely on top of my list of great glove makers. On the other side of the coin. I despise misinformation on the part of some manufacturers. when they count on consumers being confused by the myriad of tests and agencies, it’s an insult to all of our intelligence. They should be informing, not blatantly pushing the boundaries of misdirection. It just hurts motorcycling in general. More folks would be into riding if a few more of us made it out of an event without incident. On those terms, I practice what I preach by not being hypocritical. On our own Facebook page for example, I leave all disparaging remarks and obvious troll comments up…I think engaging in contentious repertoire is the only way to stay grounded and to sharpen one’s debate skills. I Got that from my debate class in hight school. One of the best teachers I’ve ever had taught me a valuable lesson in two quotes “always cover your butt” and “if you want to prove something, prove it with math.” it’s mostly incontestable. I also call out great products when I see them (not very many however, ineffective “protective” gear is just so prevalent, back protectors for example).

                  This approach however has gotten me into hot water with the others at my company. I love my co-designers but they will sometimes (read: all the time) take the liberty to censor my word vomit as well as some posts and remarks. Ultimately they are right. I know i can come off as abrupt and uncivil at times, everyone’s got their flaws :) …so I cater to their concerns. Their view is that we should operate professionally as a corporate entity, and I can’t argue with them on that logic, I can’t hurt their bottom lines and my personal view on things shouldn’t reflect on everyone else.

                  Here’s my site: http://www.delrosario-nyc.com

                  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Del-Rosario/117693114950429

                  our new site should be up in two weeks hopefully, we’re preparing now for the pre-production gloves to arrive from the factory. As far as I know, we’ll be the only CE 2 rated non-winter gloves on the market. From there we move on to other stuff we’ve got down the pipeline. We’ll be sending you guys a prototype as soon as they arrive BTW.

                  Thanks Sean!

                  John

  • Jorn Bjorn Jorvi

    I trust these gloves are good, but I can’t get down with the hard sliders on the palm opposite the base of the thumb. I use sort of a screwdriver grip and that puts any hard parts on a glove right in between my palm and the bar. The resulting pressure points numb up my hands something nasty.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Nah, I had the same fears but they’re positioned correctly to still allow different grip styles.

      • Guest

        Yes, but unfortunately not very many… Halvarssons in the UK has a winter model called “safety grip pro”. Racer also has a few models…but those are also probably the cold weather models as well. You’d have to do a bit of homework with them unfortunately, they classify some as “CE 2″ and some as just “CE”, which means they could be “level 1″ and you don’t want that…I would suggest emailing them and asking them which are specifically level 2 as those are the only one that require the abrasion/impact protection..,, everything else is just an overpriced driving glove with a gauntlet….

      • Jorn Bjorn Jorvi

        Good to know. Do you know who their distributer is? My local guy gives me special prices on parts unlimited, tucker rocky and wps

  • Reid

    They also look like they’d be quite useful in a street fight.

  • vic06

    Have you tried the Held Phantom? I’ve been wearing the original version (there’s a new one for 2013) on the street and track. It’s, in my opinion, the safest glove around. It features kangaroo leather, fully kevlar lined, all-around wrist strap, long, beefy wrist protection and huge palm slider. When you take them off, all its armor keeps it from laying flat, unlike the Racer in the pictures.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      I hear Held’s are nice, but we mostly feature products that are widely commercially available and made by companies who can respond to emails and stuff.

      • vic06

        The big -online- retailers carry them, including Revzilla, but someone in their US distributor must be short-sighted. Maybe they’re hoping that Motorweek will review their gear one day. Too bad.

      • Bram

        When are you guys back on youtube?

    • Jhon Alexander

      All those features don’t equal safety…It makes for nice marketing, all it does is get you to fork over the $350. Here’s what they don’t mention in their marketing points…Held’s do not pass the CE abrasion/Impact legally required for them to be called “motorcycle gloves” in the UK…you just bought “gloves”…They are no better or worse than the racers.

      • vic06

        Not true. My pair of Phantom ($200, BTW) do have the CE marking on them.

        The EN 13594 covers many aspects, such as ergonomics, but does not apply to protection directly. For evaluation of perforation and abrasion resistance and tear, the norm defers to the EN 3385. That’s the one that Held test their gloves against, although their catalog refers to it as DIN 53574.

        So, yes, they’re CE tested.

        http://www.satrappeguide.com/EN13594_mc.php

        http://www.satrappeguide.com/EN388.php
        http://i.imgur.com/CkB7Bo5.jpg
        http://i.imgur.com/g9bSWeE.png

        • Jhon Alexander

          Hi Vic..thanks for the reply. Hope you took my criticism as sincere :)…
          I have to correct you however on a few things…Absolutely nothing was wrong in my comment, 100% factual. 13594 does in deed cover protection. Its expressly and specifically does specify what the criteria is for abrasion and impact. ergonomics is one of those side tests they conduct, which mostly everyone passes by the way. Just like color fastness to make sure the fabric doesn’t bleed and retention to make sure it stays on your hand securely during a fall.

          Second, EN 388 is specifically a WORK glove standard, not motorcycle glove. the tests conducted for tear and puncture resistance are slightly similar, everything else is different. So congratulations, you own a $200 pair of work gloves.

          Please send me the link to the “3385″, as this is probably only a work glove standard. the ONLY standard specifically for motorcycle protection is “13495″ and helds do not pass. the fact that they’re fooling you and everyone else into buying gloves with a CE spec speaks largely of the industry and clever marketing in general.

          the reason SATRA does not link to the specifics of the test is because they want to charge you for the full details and report.. that page you linked to just hovers over a few details. I happened to purchase the entire specifics as well as have tested numerous gloves of my own with SATRA..you’re not telling me anything new here.

          you want something rated legally as motorcycle gloves, your only choices for now are Halvarssons or a few from Racer

          So again,,NO, your gloves are not rated properly….you can buy a $20 pair at home depot with the same exact ratings…

          thanks and i mean it with the best intentions, take care Vic!
          Jhon

  • Dan

    Fun fact: the awesome
    Thin-ness of kangaroo leather means you can actually get burned by the heat generated by sliding. I went for a slide down the track in a pair of knox gloves this season. Zero injuries, except for a burn on the tip of all 10 fingers. Probably the most comical injury you can imagine.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Neato.

    • Piglet2010

      Does not kangaroo leather become brittle after a couple of years – or is that just FUD on the Internet?

  • LS650

    I’d be interested to know how they hold up over the long term. I’ve found that sometimes the most expensive gloves simply don’t hold up to daily commuting, and disintegrate after a few months of riding. On the other hand, I’ve bought relatively cheap cloves that, although not fancy or feature-laden, do handle poor weather well and have lasted a few seasons.

  • John

    Held….

  • John

    Damen leathers…