The 5 Biggest Bummers of 2013 EICMA

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2014 BMW S 1000 R

Bummer #2:

2014 Brough Superior SS100
2014 Brough Superior SS100

Bike Name: 2014 Brough Superior SS100
What They Did: Bought a brand name then made a ridiculously expensive bike that kinda/sorta looks like the original.
Why They Did It: Rose-tinted, period correct aviator goggles?
What Would Have Made It Good: In 1924, the SS100 was the fastest, most well-engineered bike you could buy. That’s what made it a legend. In 2014, the SS100 is a ridiculously expensive exercise in attempting to manufacture a collector’s item. See the disparity?

#1 – The Biggest 2013 EICMA Bummer Of All:

2014 Harley-Davidson Street 750
2014 Harley-Davidson Street 750

Bike Name: 2014 Harley-Davidson Street 750 and 500
What They Did: Designed a Harley for developing markets not by analyzing the needs of riders in those markets, but by taking the H-D archetype and cutting all costs. Check out this picture snapped in Milan of the Street’s shift linkage by Oliepeil.nl
Why They Did It: Arrogance.
What Would Have Made It Good: As one of the most recognizable brands in the world, Harley has an amazing opportunity to reinvent the motorcycle’s place in modern culture. Not just in America, but everywhere else in the world too. Take its brand values — rebellion, tactile quality, taking charge of your own life — and apply them to a wholly new motorcycle that could give people unique, must-have value. I think you’ll find that doing so would result in the total opposite of the bikes they actually made.

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  • BmwofDenver Parts

    BMW S1000R – It’s a second faster than the rr in a 20-100mph acceleration. That’s gonna be awesome! 160 hp, +8 lb/ft torque increase across the rev range / 12k rpm redline. Totally more practical. Available dynamic suspension dampening from the HP4 too. It’s gonna be a badass for sure. If you can tell me the difference in 160hp and 190hp in most any street riding environment then Kudos to you. Will smash new water cooled monsters, streetfighter, z1000, and not enough niche market with aprilia/ktm street riders. Besides 3 year/36k mile warranty with roadside assistance? Tell us who else does that for $15k loaded bike?

    • Kevin

      Sick to death of the HP & displacement wars. Rideability, useable performance, this is what it’s really about.

      • John Tiedjens

        You are so right Kevin, there comes a point to were it doesn’t matter how much HP you have…. the average or even good rider can’t use all that to his advantage. I love fast N all but ridebility…. that’s the money!

      • Gonfern

        Unless you can lay down 180 hp in a rideable platform. Like oh idk KTM? Aprilia? Point is BMW kicked the super bike world right in the nuts. Anything less than that in the super naked entry is going to be a big dissapointment.

    • CP

      but a really ugly front end…
      style count for something too

      • Justin McClintock

        That part I’ll agree with. Like the S1000RR, the S1000R seems to be ugly for ugly’s sake.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Nice ad.

      What does *semi*-dynamic suspension do other than sound fun on a spec sheet? You’ve been able to adjust suspension damping setting via push button on BMWs for at least 5 years.

      • BmwofDenver Parts

        no ads here, just wont subscribe to your discus crap with personal account- whallah work account. I actually ride an Aprilia RSV. Beautiful emotional bikes those apes. However, It’s very apparent you are opposed to the BMW product line- aren’t contributing editors supposed to take an open mindset when speaking of products? Anyhow, here’s some insight (thought you may have at least researched this before asking such a silly question). The “push button” suspension control you mention on beemers is not active in any way. In the form you mention, users were simply able to adjust preload settings with push button (1 up, 2up, 2 up withluggage, etc…). Additionally with ESA equipped bikes, the suspension damping is selectable on the fly (sports, road, comfort). These settings DO NOT vary once set- if you are in comfort (squishy soft mode), then you are in comfort.
        Active suspension means that the bikes suspension is ACTIVELY adjusting compression and rebound settings digitally while riding the bike. This of course also accounts for preload. The bikes with active suspension listen to the ecu for things like throttle position, gear position, engine brake, lean angle, preferred riding mode, wheel speed sensors, etc…
        No comparison.

        • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

          Semi-active. It can’t respond to real time conditions.

          And no bias here, I just think the S 1000 RR is boring and over-hyped.

          • BmwofDenver Parts

            last one and I’ll stop. Again you are misguided:
            http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/us/en/bike/urban/s1000r/s1000r_highlights.html&prm_action=&notrack=1

            “The S 1000 R is the only roadster to feature a highly active electronic suspension which is able to adapt to riding conditions within milliseconds, thereby enabling maximum agility and dynamic performance.”

          • Stuki

            Fully active is usually taken to mean the actual stoke is actively managed. As in, a motor keeping the contact applying a constant pressure on the surface. Bose (the speaker guys, speakers coils are basically active suspension components) did some cool work on that a few years back, showing a “car” that could drive over curbs with nary a jiggle, by lifting the wheel over the obstacle.

            Semi-active, which sound rather non-standardized, intuitively refers to what BMW is doing; adjusting preload, compression, rebound etc. in “real time” based on sensor inputs. So, they respond to real time, or at least soft real time, inputs. Which is kinda neato, and, going on HP4 reviews, work rather well under most circumstances. While being rather cheap to implement, versus fitting the kind of high price passive components that has traditionally been the only way t make a light bike both well controlled duiring aggressive maneuvers, and comfortable cruising down less than smooth roads.

            • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

              Again, it’s not real time. It just switches between Track, road, Rain or whatever depending on how you’re riding. Ie, the stuff you can do on a Panigale or whatever already, but going through the incredibly laborious process of pushing a button.

              It’s not like you’re in a corner and some whizz-bang gizmo is like “this is the precise optimal setting for this corner!” It’s just “hey, wes is using full throttle and leaning over really far, let’s put him in track mode.”

              Don’t listen to marketing speak. It’s designed to obfuscate.

              • BmwofDenver Parts

                “It’s not like you’re in a corner and some whizz-bang gizmo is like “this is the precise optimal setting for this corner!” ”
                …yes it is. on the HP4 with Race software setup it even goes as far as using GPS to pinpoint those specific areas

                • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

                  I don’t believe that for one second.

              • Stuki

                I thought it adjusted basic suspension settings based on speed, perceived bumpiness, lean angle etc., etc. But if you’re right, I can see your point. If all it does is switch between a few coarse modes, then I’d rather have the predictability of doing it manually.

                And personally, even if it is the fancier version, I’d still rather have plush-and-firm accomplished the Ohlins way, costs be damned. Having all manners of brains second guessing what is best for me when leaned over at potentially lethal velocities, just strikes me as a bit less than entirely comforting than being embraced by thousands of dollars and race wins worth of Swedish spring steel and meticulous detail obsession…..

                • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

                  Right, which is why they don’t have it actually responding to individual corners and whatnot.

                  I’ll take properly setup Ohlins NIX30/TTX36 over any suspension setup going. There’s a reason the Duc costs more.

        • Harve Mil

          Well, I don’t know about you all, but I’ve got the popcorn bowl out over here.

          I don’t doubt you, Wes, and I’ve wondered the same thing. Too many things seem to be carefully written to give false impressions regarding the electronic suspension. Do you have any links to back this up?

          • BmwofDenver Parts

            Wes- these guys have actually ridden the bike…
            “The HP4′s headline feature though is its motorcycling first semi-active suspension. BMW calls it Dynamic Damping Control (DDC), and it adjusts automatically, very rapidly and on the fly the damping settings front and rear according to a whole range of parameters. The system softens on bumpy roads, firms up the front under heavy braking, alters both ends during cornering, firms the rear when you’re accelerating and so on.”
            -Kevin Ash http://www.ashonbikes.com (you may heave heard of him)
            http://www.ashonbikes.com/cont

            “With its semi-active suspension, the HP4 seems to flatten the swoops and repair the broken Tarmac. It throws rose petals in its own path, for its Pirellis to glide softly over.”
            Michael Neeves- MotorcycleNews.com
            http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides-tests/2013/January/jan0313-bmw-s1000rr-vs-s1000rr-hp4/
            …and so on and so on.
            Of course there is always PAYOLA with editors, or as you say “marketing”
            You should get one of your LA buddies to loan you one.

        • Piglet2010

          Er, it is spelled “voilà”.

          And active suspension means that actuators are moving the wheels – as in the early 1990′s F1 cars where brake dive, acceleration squat, and cornering lean could be completely eliminated while having the compliance of a very soft suspension over bumps. The BMW S1000RR HP4, Ducati Skyhook, etc are semi-active systems that only adjust damping and preload.

          • Marc

            Actually, BMW of Denver is right; the active suspension on the HP4 (and now, apparently S1kR) is not the same as Skyhook or previous electronically controlled BMWs. It is a realtime damper adjustment based on multiple parameters. It is in fact MUCH faster and more sophisticated than simply picking the right damper setting for a corner. It picks the right setting for a bump.

            Wes has this one wrong.

            • Piglet2010

              Still semi-active, and not fully active such as the suspension on the Williams FW14B and FW15C F1 cars. Unless the suspension on the HP4 has the ability to pull up and push down on the wheels, which is not something I have seen claimed anywhere.

            • Daniel

              Someone loan him a HP4 for a day already!
              “Egg on face” review…

      • Justin McClintock

        Regardless of if its basically an ad, it’s correct. It has more torque (and therefore more HP) than the RR EVERYWHERE below 9000 RPM. It’s a street bike, not a track bike. Like I said in the other thread, if you’re really using all 160 HP, you’re north of 10K RPM at full throttle. You’d better be going pretty fast already or you’re sending the nose straight up. And if that’s the case, you’d be better off at the track anyway….where you’d be better off with the RR and its fairing.

      • Lc102

        I mean none of the other bikes in this category have that, so that makes a bit of difference compared to a HP number on the KTM that is beyond usable on the streets. I’ll take more advanced suspension over the 20 hp anyday of the week. Cruise control does seem a bit laughable though. Really who is buying this thing for rides long enough to really warrant CC?

        • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

          How is the BMW’s suspension more advanced than the high quality WP stuff used on the KTM?

          • BmwofDenver Parts

            “The HP4′s headline feature though is its motorcycling first semi-active suspension. BMW calls it Dynamic Damping Control (DDC), and it adjusts automatically, very rapidly and on the fly the damping settings front and rear according to a whole range of parameters. The system softens on bumpy roads, firms up the front under heavy braking, alters both ends during cornering, firms the rear when you’re accelerating and so on.”
            -Kevin Ash http://www.ashonbikes.com (you may heave heard of him)
            http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/bmw-hp4-review

        • Scott Sweeney

          It’s actually been stated by multiple outlets that the KTM S Duke is incredibly docile and tractable for a 180hp sit up and beg moto. The power is also limited in the first few gears to keep that front end down. Very few sport oriented motorcycles can use full power in first or second (now days 3rd or even 4th sometimes) without some sort of wheelie control or in the good old days what was referred to as “feathering the throttle and clutch” or “finesse.”

          • Piglet2010

            Who is going to be using high-end power in 4th through 6th gears on a naked bike with 150+ HP anyhow – you would need the grip of an orangutan to keep up against the wind blast for long?

            • Scott Sweeney

              Where on the street could you use 180hp in the upper gears regardless of there being fairings or not for more than a few seconds?

              Can we agree the power figure is as much about marketing and bench racing as it is about performance on a motorcycle intended to spend 99% of its time street riding?

              • Piglet2010

                In a few place (e.g. Germany during the early morning in summer) one can still legally open up a high performance motorcycle. But no where in North America if you want to keep you license for long (as the only roads without traffic cops are unpaved).

                And of course on the track, where a fully-faired bike makes much more sense (excluding go-cart and supermoto tracks).

                • Stuki

                  You can actually whack open a bike in quite a few places in the West. Compared to a car, they get up to approximately terminal speed in much shorter distance. Whether it is much fun past attempt 2 is another question altogether, of course……….

                • Piglet2010

                  I would expect that with police departments buying surveillance drones, there will be very few places left where one can open up anything faster than a 250cc motorcycle.

              • Jonathan Berndt

                its not just about using it all, its about the broad band, being able to use the torque.
                i think it would be fantastic to have that at your fingertips, nothing wrong with 3rd and 4th gear wheelies either!

        • Jonathan Berndt

          not for me, ill take the 1290 please, orange & white!

    • Jorn Bjorn Jorvi

      If it’s a second faster from 20-100, then doesn’t that make it more likely to lift the front unintentionally? I don’t think you can argue a bike more prone to unexpected power wheelies is more practical than a bike less prone to do so.

    • Stuki

      From the pics, the pegs on the R looks about as uncompromising as on the RR. Sans forward lean, that means MORE pressure on the old knees (cue Street Triple)…….. The 1290 just looks to have a more spacious rider triangle, as befits a bike from a predominantly dirt bike peddler. But I haven’t seen either in real life, much less sat on or ridden one. Waaaay more power than I’m interested in anyway.

    • Andy Scott

      Even with all of the negative press about the S1000R on this site (There seems to be some general dislike of BMW around here…don’t understand why, it didn’t used to be like that), I am still holding out to hear how it performs in the real world. There seem to be claims and opinions thrown around without real basis. I would love to see RideApart get their hands on one of these for a while and give it an honest review. How does the it really perform and compare to the competition? For that matter, has RA/HFL ever ridden an S1000RR?..I don’t recall a review. I usually trust the reviews here and have based some of my purchase decisions because of Wes and the guys (990 Baja, CBR250RR), but something gives me the feeling that there is some preconceived judgement going on here. I think that RA knows more than anyone that spec sheets and shootouts are not what defines a motorcycle, which is why this is my favorite site. Did something happen between BMW and the HFL staff at some point that caused a rift?? I wonder…

      • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

        We’re actually super friendly with the BMW guys…

        I love that the conspiracy theories come out anytime we draw an unpopular conclusion after looking at the facts. Sure, this is going to be a good bike. It is a BMW after all. But I can categorically state that it will be slower than either the KTM or the Aprilia. Does that matter to 99% of the riding population? Well, if you ask me, 99% of the riding population should be on CB500F’s, not anything faster. And even then, they’d scare me.

        We have reviewed an S 1000 RR. Nice motor, meh chassis and suspension. I don’t get the hype. The basic CBR1K is cheaper and actually the faster bike despite the power deficit due to its superior chassis and suspension quality.

        Unfortunately, with performance bikes, spec sheets are always going to play a role. These things do sell on power and weight and that stuff.

        Wes

        • Stuki

          You know you are a spoied motojourno when……. a brand new 2013 superbike, with a performance envelope that would probably land it a motoGP podium finish a decade ago, has a “meh chassis and suspension”…………..

  • CP

    And the missing Ducati Scrambler. Where did that go???

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      It’ll debut in the new year, likely at a car show on the audi stand.

  • brittonx

    How about Honda announcing a couple of nice bikes (the new 650s and VFR800) but are not bringing them to North America

    • Bill

      You can add NC750* and CBR300R to the list for North America

      • brittonx

        CBR300R is cool. NC750* yawn!

  • 962c

    You left out the R1200RT fairing design. It looks like a comic book villain with it’s radioactively overgrown upper fairing and skinny lowers.

    • Guest

      Wes, 99% of the time i agree with you more then any other, but i think that most of your conclusions are premature.
      For example, the BMW may surprise you, like many bikes recently.
      It may be more then the sum of its parts, or the engine might become interesting due to tuning/gearing or whatever the BMW guys decided.

      Yes, the Brough is a specialty item, appealing to a certain group of riders – think Deus or Lazareth. The name is a way to “get the foot in the door” to give some coverage.

      And lastly the harley street range..why is it not a standard?
      Mid mounts, humane rake, water cooled 8V motor and tolerable weight.
      Think about it, most bikes are made of plastic, and however you twist it, it doesnt provide the tactile sensation that a metal piece provides. This if why people love bonnies, bandits and ZRX’s, because those bikes provide a diffrent kind of performance, the everday little things like touching a metal tank on a cond morning and feeling the cold metal, the headers which remain looking good for years.
      Sure, it might make the bike heavier and more expensive, which makes spec jockeys say “it is not as good as XXXX”.

      I really think you should try forgetting that its a harley (no image), and look at it like its a diffrent take on the honda 500′s.

  • runnermatt

    I think Harley forgot that the rest of the world knows the Harley name and not necessarily the Harley image. They could take the opportunity to build great inexpensive bikes (like Honda, but with Harley image and branding). If Harley screws it up and instead create a negative image in these large markets then they risk hurting themselves in the global market for a long, long time.

    • roma258

      Also missing the opportunity to build anything other than a cruiser. Put that 750 in a nicely styled standard and you have my attention..

      • Reid

        ^^^ YES. Well, maybe not THIS particular 750 or 500, but a decently powerful one. I’m with you in that I categorically disagree with the assertion of every dirtbag HD fan (who must be aware of how terrible the current crop of bikes and their corporate culture are or else they wouldn’t get so defensive whenever someone criticizes their “efforts”) that if Harley made a bike that wasn’t a hog in every sense of the word it would completely destroy the brand. I feel like a “Street” lineup of a sporty standard, street tracker and new cruiser, all using medium-displacement engines and with non “actual steel” frames that are considerably lighter than a “featherweight” 480 lbs. “dripping wet” (God was that PR video atrocious) would do wonders for the whole HD brand. If the company already has control of something like 48 percent of the US market, making other kinds of bikes besides massive (and now super cheapy) cruisers would only HELP their cause, right? Not to mention get some respect back in the eyes of the motorcycle community that actually looks for things like the ability to accelerate, stop, turn, etc. when they go to purchase a motorcycle. Nobody is saying HD should stop making cruisers – why should they? they’re the “best” at it – but how does diversifying your portfolio make the company weaker? I’ll never understand it. Maybe Indian can do the right thing and build an American motorcycle I WANT to own.

        • Piglet2010

          No, I agree with Willie G. Davidson that the brand has a cult-like following. The reason that the followers get so angry at any criticism is that you are attacking their “religion”. Some H-D followers I have met are piss-ignorant, like the guy who told me the engine in his Dyna-Glide would rev as high as the one in my Ninjette, or that H-D made the fastest bikes on the market.

    • Mark D

      I think the new Harleys are actually pretty shrewd. From what I can gather, there is a HUGE demand for Harleys in India (the second most populous country on the planet, btw), but because of high tariffs, imported Harleys are prohibitively expensive. So, what do you do? Build Harleys there! People already want the bikes, flaws and all; they are simply building one at price point which will move thousands of units. People who want a sensible, low-maintenance standard are not wanting for options. Harley is competing for “want” dollars (or, rupees), not “need” dollars.

  • Dan Sciannameo

    Didn’t Aprilia show the new Caponord 1200?

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      That was revealed at Intermot in 2012.

  • 480272

    No bigger Moto Guzzi V7….

    • Reid

      I was disappointed about that too :/

  • Paul Cypher

    Wes, 99% of the time i agree with you more then any other, but i think that most of your conclusions are premature.

    For example, the BMW may surprise you, like many bikes recently.
    It may be more then the sum of its parts, or the engine might become interesting due to tuning/gearing or whatever the BMW guys decided.

    Yes, the Brough is a specialty item, appealing to a certain group of riders – think Deus or Lazareth. The name is a way to “get the foot in the door” to give some coverage.

    And lastly the harley street range..why is it not a standard?

    Mid mounts, humane rake, water cooled 8V motor and tolerable weight.

    Think about it, most bikes are made of plastic, and however you twist it, it doesn’t provide the tactile sensation that a metal piece provides. This if why people love bonnies, bandits and ZRX’s, because those bikes provide a different kind of performance, the everyday little things like touching a metal tank on a cold morning and feeling the cold metal, the headers which remain looking good for years.

    Sure, it might make the bike heavier and more expensive, which makes spec jockeys say “it is not as good as XXXX”.

    I really think you should try forgetting that its a harley (no image), and look at it like its a diffrent take on the honda 500′s, same idea but slightly different angle.

    • HammSammich

      I agree that the Harley is more standard than cruiser, but it still looks pretty raked out – but maybe it appears to be exaggerated based on the fork length and the low seat height. Regardless, the biggest improvement I see here is the angle on that swingarm. Sad that their entry-level “not a real harley” (what I expect the pirates to say) bikes will likely be the best handling bikes they’ve ever made…

      • Paul Cypher

        Exactly, and quite ironically, its back to the (real) basics for harley.
        Is it just me or there is some real potential in this bike?

    • Daniel

      The Honda 500s > the new piglets any way you slice it…

      • Piglet2010

        I named my scooter “Piglet” as a parody of “Hog”.

  • Michael

    no details on the ‘absolute black’ version of the RSV4? I know its not a total makeover but I hear it has a few useful updates. I am a fan of that new color too. The gold wheels on the previous factory model looked retarded.

  • LS650

    RideApart dot com – the land of the Harley haters.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      Not at all. Tim, a staff member, owns one and the rest of us would absolutely love it if we had the option to buy a great, American made bike. But, facts, logic and reality outweigh illusion here at RideApart dot com.

      • Reid

        Wes Siler for President 2016

    • Scott Sweeney

      The problem is HD is an image and lifestyle company that sells bodacious two wheeled accessories. Until they make a 180 degree turn on those priorities, most here will not be drinking the koolaid.

      • Kenneth

        And people buying uncomfortable, 180 mph bikes for the street are not “image and lifestyle” oriented? Hmmm. But, more to the point, Harley-Davidson has focused on a specific area and has created a highly-successful company by NOT trying to please everybody. If what they make is not for you – or others at this website – I think they’ve got better things to contemplate.

        • Scott Sweeney

          I can ride my 180mph bike, in comfort, and do everything an HD can. Make noise, stand around, go out to eat, cruise down the highway, pick up a lady friend. I can then ALSO do everything a Harley Davidson could never ever be capable of doing. All this for less than a typical Harley Davidson costs. Many times with better fuel mileage and better reliability. I’d call that value. Superior value even.

  • CruisingTroll

    hmmm, no new lightweight multi-cylinder scramblers.

    Think CB500X with 17r/19f spoked wheels, possibly 18r/21f, switchable ABS, and 2 more inches of suspension travel front and rear. Not 3 or 4 more inches of travel, just two more.

    Or think Aprilia’s RXV450 w/ stout subframe, less suspension travel, and the engine retuned/re-engineered for road/touring duty rather than race hp and maintenance intervals.

    No new modern, non-budget spec A2 bikes.

    And worst of all… no all expense paid trip for me to go to next year’s show… :(

    • Piglet2010

      I want a 500cc, 2-cylinder, high-end suspension, lightweight, street legal supermoto with normal maintenance requirements.

      • John

        ^^^^^ Me too ^^^^^^

      • CruisingTroll

        Sooo, basically you want one of the Aprilias with normal maintenance. I’m with ya…

        • Piglet2010

          Yes, if 170HP/L super-sports can go 4000 miles between oil changes and 100K miles between internal engine work, no reason what a street legal supermoto cannot do the same.

          • Stuki

            supersports have multis that don’t shake themselves apart at all revs. And have weight budgets that can accommodate balance shafts.

  • Mugget

    Can someone please explain the issue with the Harley shift linkage? I’m just not seeing it…

    • Piglet2010

      I saw those parts at Lowe’s in the screen-door hardware section. ;)

      • Mugget

        Hmm… all I’m seeing is the usual shift rod with ball joints held together by some plain old nuts and bolts?

        Or is it because they’re not chrome??

        • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

          I see about .01 cents parts cost in that entire picture.

    • Scott Sweeney

      Messy welds, poor, uneven powder coat/ paint, hardware from the mom and pop shop down the street. Just look at the build quality and performance stats of say the new Yamaha FZ-09 which comes in at near the suggested price of the new HD’s. It’s crazy.

      • Mugget

        Fair enough. I don’t know anything about H-D, so for all I knew that could have been the norm.

        Also I see some other comments about those bikes being built in India. Could explain some things.

  • John

    There were plenty of others. Nothing from Moto Guzzi apparently. Why not a V7 sport tourer or mini-Norge? Why are the cool Hondas not available in the US? Where’s the more aggressive CB500x variant? Where’s the shaft drive, Honda? MT07 not coming? No smaller Tenere updates? Nothing by Suzuki? Nothing of note from Kawasaki? Nothing from Triumph? Where’s a 530 twin? Where’s the 250 single? No new entry/mid-level BMWs? I mean, they have to fix the 800 series. Husqvarna? Yikes.

    • Piglet2010

      Wonder if Husqy will have a SMR511 replacement, or does Herr Pierer hate street-legal supermotos?

    • Afonso Mata

      More aggressive variant of the CB500X? The all new NC750X.
      Kawazaki has an all new J300 scooter to kick some buttocks.
      The 530 twin is on Yamaha’s T-Max (now with a new paint scheme).

      • Piglet2010

        The Kawasaki J300 is simply a re-badged KYMCO Downtown 300i.

        • Afonso Mata

          I love the Downtown’s design, and in bright orange it’s really an awsome bike. And it’s update, now called XCT 300i, looks even better. But in southern Europe, where this kind of bikes have a good market penetration, SYM is getting all the sales on that niche with it’s GTS 300 (at least in Portugal and Spain this is true). Since Kymco isn’t cutting it, putting a premium brand badge on it and selling it at a premium price, sounds like a marketing strategy to me.
          Also, for other markets where “weird named brands” don’t get much sales because they’re not “one of the big four”, I think it’s also a nice way to push those bikes.

      • John

        The NC750 is a totally different bike – heavier and less sporting, more of a light touring bike. I’m talking something really off road capable like the Thai CB500x Dakar bikes.

  • Beale

    The Brough Superior looks like an Instructables project.

  • Ducky

    The only issue with the HD shift linkage is that it’s cheap. Which, considering the bike, doesn’t surprise me. Otherwise that’s a functional piece, the only thing I can criticize is that it’s not in double-shear, but then this isn’t supposed to take high loads (unless you’re a 250+ lb. pirate… wait…). Looks like a MIG weld job on the left side with the bits of spatter, but again, i don’t expect a nice machined work of art.

    The CBR1000RR’s issue is that it’s familiar, and therefore boring. The I4 format followed by most of its competitors, but without any special out of the ordinary race tech or whizz-bang headline gadget. Given a choice between the base 1000RR and the RSV4 APRC, my eyes would easily start wandering towards the latter. In reality, I would bet the SP is one of the quickest and easiest to ride (read: well sorted) supersports out there on the track. In other words, it might have been cool earlier in the 1000RR life cycle.

  • Piglet2010

    The “super-naked” concept is stupid to begin with. The full power cannot be used at lower speeds due to limitations in keeping the front wheel down or the rear wheel from spinning, and cannot be used at higher speeds due to wind blast. So what are they good for? A naked supermoto with half the power, three-fourths the torque, and two-thirds the weight is a superior bike. And if you want high-speed performance, get a super-bike race replica which is designed just for that.

    • Ben W

      While I agree that super-nakeds have nothing to do with “need” or “logic,” I’ve got to ask: what naked supermoto (or bike at all) fits your description? It has to be 750+cc to deliver 3/4 the torque and right at 300 lbs to meet the 2/3 weight stipulation.

      - KTM’s 690 Duke is the closest fit I can find and it’s too heavy (~340 lbs) and a bit underpowered (67hp, unquoted torque).
      - Ducati’s Hypermotard exceeds the power/torque bill, but it’s only only 20 lbs lighter than the S1000R (~19/20ths the weight).
      - Yamaha’s FZ-09 is only 40 lbs lighter than the S1000R – so ~9/10ths the weight.
      - Triumph’s Street Triple misses on weight (~40 lbs less) and torque.
      - BMW’s F800GS misses on weight (~20 lbs less)

      I’d totally agree that the bike you described would be better suited for the street, but I’m not sure that it exists.

  • Kevin Riedl

    So the linkage *looking* cheap on a pre-production entry level bike thats primary market is India is the number one disappointment.? I fail to see why you all enjoy hating HD so much.

  • Justin Turner

    @wessiler:disqus – Can I make a suggestion on the new two page articles?

    Add a “View Full Article” or “View All” option along with the current navigation links. Frequent readers like myself would click it as soon as the page loads. Bam- two page hits for RideApart, full one-page articles for the readers. I believe wired.com does this.

    Maybe some readers are clicking multiple times to reference earlier parts of the article- inflating your hit count, but is that an attractive design to you? I would find a way to show that you respect both your original content and the user.

    Do you want RideApart to be the Ducati Monster or Diavel?

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      I’ll see what I can do. Don’t worry, I’m not a fan of the pagination either.

  • Bram

    I think the biggest bummer from this years show is the KTM Super Duke 1290 not coming out with that new MSC ABS system thats on the Adventure.
    This is closely followed by Suzuki not bringing out a monstrous 200+ BHP GSXR 1000.

  • Jonathan Berndt

    Geeez man! no one even noticed Honda’s 1000cc NAS prototype? why no news on that???

    http://www.oliepeil.nl/uitlaat/4714-prototype-van-het-verleden,-honda-nas.html

    • Ben W

      That was back in 1999.

  • Jack Meoph

    Thank You. After looking at the new Brough Superior the only thing that came to mind was this company is making a trophy for the rich, not a motorcycle. BTW: Hardly Ableson doesn’t want people to buy their new entry level bikes and stay on them. They want them to fall apart so they’ll have to move up the food chain. The Yamanail Bolt is a very nice looking cruiser and the price point kills the Sporty.

  • grindz145

    Fuck 160 HP, bigger numbers! I only want bigger numbers! Fuck torque curves!

  • deuce_sluice

    I guess I’m crazy but I’d rather have a LOWER power Aprilia V4. I love the feel of the V4, the sound, and the performance but I absolutely do not need anywhere near that much power. Give me a 100hp V4 with all the same bits and I’d be happy.

    • Stuki

      As opposed as I am to any kind of government regulation; I have little doubt I would personally very much enjoy the results of an arms race geared towrdsmaking 100 peak hp engines all that they can be, rather than chasing twice that HP in bikes with performance usable by 3 aliens and a gaggle of spec sheet braggarts.

    • TechGuy5489

      Is that not just the RSV4 in its rain mode?

  • Moto Tommy

    I have to agree with number 1. Harley have taken the most iconic name in motorcycling (currently in production) and attached some sub-par, liquid cooled, made in India piece of crap and alienated their core group of customers all in one fell swoop. Why not just de-stroke the 883 (for which the tooling has been paid for long ago) and ship the disassembled bikes to India? I can’t imagine many Americans are going to buy these motorcycles. I can imagine more people buying Indian(the brand name) motorcycles as a result.

    • Stuki

      Is Harley even going to sell these in America?

      Harley is likely seeing the same thing as Honda; that their “core group of customers” are abandoning them for wheelchairs and hearses in droves, and that the only people filling in with potential riders at the other end of the age spectrum, live in places where a family home is considered extravagant if it costs as much as an EGlide or a new VFR.

      H&H, being the biggest dogs in their respective niches, realize it is up to them to cultivate tomorrow’s “core customers.” Meaning cheap bikes built by cheap labor for sale to cheap people in cheap locales.

      Instead of bitching, think how cool it is for someone who would otehrwise never be able to buy a motorcycle biggger than a cub, top be able to get a 750 “big (for 3rd world) twin” Harley, or a 500 CBR R. And remember, even the cheapest Harley is still cooler, and in most cities faster, than that theoretically faster McLaren supercar some poor software sap ends up boiling up inside of, while stuck in traffic somewhere in Bangalore.

  • beefstuinit

    They couldn’t leave the balls on the S1000R because they added torque lower down which gave up top end power. The duke has more displacement which is how it gets away with both – and BMW is not going to give the naked version more displacement than the halo bike.

    • http://RideApart.com/ Wes Siler

      They added 7 lb-ft of torque low down. You could do significantly better simply by swapping a sprocket.

      • Stuki

        Chances are, the 7lb-ft comes from valveopenings that allow for more complete combustion at lower revs; no simple feat in cylinders the shape of a coaster. Which likely means smoother delivery at everyday rpms, better city mileage and less surging at the very bottom of the rev range. None of which could be achieved, in fact all of which would be made worse, by a sprocket change.

        I have no doubt at all this bike is going to be freakishly good at what it is designed to be good at. BMW as of current is home to some of the most amazing engineering talent in motorcycling; and the engineers are given more budgetary leeway than most others.

        Instead, my issue is that this bike is just plain overkill for what I want out of a sporty naked bike. Put similar effort into a 400cc, <400lb I4 instead, and i'll buy both a faired one, and a naked one, pretty much on release. Then throw in a 425 lb SoloTour version as well, just because I can. 160hp, or 180hp, in what is essentially an urban and twisty canyon mount, is just so far beyond anything I could ever hope to be able to make use of, that I'd end up spending most of my rides concerned I bump throttle the thing clean off the road in every single corner in this pothole infested state of ours.

  • Von

    great article! HD…why so lazy?

  • Stuki

    Bike makers do not pay their bills with magazine articles.

  • Stuki

    Can you guys possibly get hold of a new 1200 Monster, a Tuono, this Beemer and a 1290, and do a rehash of your usual race up and down Angeles Crest, and some knee dragging while lane splitting antics on all of them? Then strap onj some camping gear and take them up to Laguna Seca, or to Gerlach or some such. That should cover most use cases for bikes like these, at least for non stunters. Then report back how they all stack up, and whether any of them make any kind of sense vis a vis a 2/3 price Street Triple or Z1000, half price FZ-09 or 1/3rd price Cb500.

    Such hard, unforgiving work you guys have…..

  • Shawn McDermott

    BMW screwed the pooch on that bike.

  • Sentinel

    Actually you missed by far the very “Biggest Bummers” of them all, which is Honda’s dreadful decision to not offer the fantastic new CB650F, CBR650F, and VFR800F here in the United States!

  • Omega Racer

    biggest bummer for me was not seeing the new Ducati Scrambler…

  • Sir Wadsalot

    Wes doesn’t fawn all over the S1000RR because BMW just threw tons of car money at a Gixxer, and made a lighter, more powerful Gixxer with gee-whiz suspension. It’s the greatest gixxer ever- who cares? It’s still a Gixxer with kewl headlights, and it’s easy to make stupid power with an I-4. This naked one is butt-ugly. After seeing the MadUSA bike, BMW missed the boat here. Streetfighters are all about attitude, down and dirty. “I crashed and can’t afford new fairings so I cut off the exhaust & spray painted it black. Oh, and I’m still faster than you through a canyon.” This thing is just ugly, which is a shame. I personally like the S1KRR- it’s a fine machine. I just wouldn’t buy one.
    Now the naked EBR-1190, that will be something to see…..and you won’t have to adjust the suspension with an iPad.